# G & C Kinney, Inc. — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation **Citation:** 05-0087 **Type / status:** guidance / guidance **Agency:** Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration **Effective:** Not stated **Published:** 2005-05-10 05-0087 response to G & C Kinney, Inc. concerning 180.205. ## Document text <<>> of Transportation U.S. Department 400 Seventh Street, S.W. Washington, D.C. 20590 Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration MAY 10 2005 Mr. Glen L. Kinney Ref. No. 05-0087 306 Cutter Cove G & C Kinney, Inc. Stafford VA 22554 Dear Mr. Kinney: This responds to your telephone conversation with Mr. Ryan Posten, Exemptions Program Officer, Office of Hazardous Materials Exemptions and Approvals, requesting clarification of the requirements under the Hazardous Materials Regulations (HMR; 49 CFR Parts 171-180) concerning calibration verification of equipment used for volumetric expansicn tests for DOT specification cylinders. Specifically, you ask whether the maximum pressure at which the verification test is being conducted (for example, 3,000 pounds) must be maintained at the final pressure for 30 seconds or whether the pressure may be allowed to drop between 2 psi and 10 psi. Overall, for any pressure test (calibration or production retest), the 30-second hold time begins only when the cylinder has completed its expansion. If the cylinder pressure the hold time must be restarted or the test would be considered invalid. drops by any measurable amount (such as 2 psi) during the recorded 30-second hold time, I hope this information is helpful. If you need additional information, please do not hesitate to contact this office. Sincerely, Hattie L. Mitchell Chief, Regulatory Review and Reinvention Office of Hazardous Materials Standards 180.205 050087 <<>> G & C KINNEY, INC. 306 Cutter Cove, Stafford VA 22554 Phone: (540) 659-3701 Fax: (540) 659-0017 E-Mail: gandckinney@aol.com April 4, 2005 MCIntyre US Department of Transportation §180.205 Regulatory Review and Reinvention Research and Special Programs Administration Office of Hazardous Materials Standards Cylinders 05-0087 Washington DC 20590 Attn: Hattie L. Mitchell Dear Ms. Mitchell: This is a request for interpretation of CFR 49 part 180.205 (g), (3), (4) and (5) with reference calibration verification of the test equipment used for volumetric expansion tests of DOT pressure cylinders. Operators of DOT facilities that use computerized hydrostatic testing equipment have stated the following: During system calibration verification (required by CFR 49 Part 180 (g) (3), (40, and (50) while pressurizing the calibrated cylinder to the maximum pressure to be tested the maximum pressure should be exceeded by 10 PSI to allow for some leakage that may take place at that pressure. In other words, if the desired verification pressure is 3000 pounds the calibrated cylinder should be pressurized to 3010 pounds and if the pressure does not fall below 3000 pounds, during the 30 seconds hold time required by CFR 180.205 (g) (5), the test is considered acceptable. In reviewing the written instructions furnished with the equipment I have not been able to find any reference to such a procedure. In telephone conversations with the manufacturers, I have been informed that these systems can not be manufactured to be totally leak proof at the higher pressures and that these minute leaks will not show up in the older systems (burettes and weight bowl systems). Part 180.205 (g) (5) States; Minimum test pressure must be maintained for at least 30 seconds and as long as necessary for complete expansion of the cylinder. Question: Does this section of part 180.205 (g) (5) apply to the calibration verification portion being conducted at (i.e. 3000lbs) be maintained at that final pressure (i.e. 3000 lbs.) for 30 seconds o 180.205 (g) (3) and (4)) of the rule? By that I mean, must the maximum pressure the verification is can it be allowed to drop between 2 and 10 PSI and still be considered acceptable for verification? Sincerely, Elen I. Keeney Glen L. 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