# Trimac Transportation & National Tank Truck Carriers, Inc. — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation

**Citation:** 09-0053  
**Type / status:** guidance / guidance  
**Agency:** Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration  
**Effective:** Not stated  
**Published:** 2009-11-13

09-0053 response to Trimac Transportation & National Tank Truck Carriers, Inc. concerning 171.12.

## Document text

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U.S. Department of Transportation Pipeline and Hazardous Materials
Safety Administration
1200 New Jersey Avenue. SE
washington, DC 20590
t~OV 1 6 2009
Mr. Rattan Bahia
Trimac Transportation
1700 800 5th Avenue S.W.
P.O. Box 3500
Calgary) Alberta
T2P 2P9
CANADA
Mr. John Conley
President
National Tank Truck Carriers, Inc.
950 North Glebe Road, Suite #520
Arlington, VA 22203 -4183
Reference No. 09-0053
Dear Messrs. Bahia and Conley:
This is in response to Mr. Bahia's two January 28,2009 e-mails to Mr. John Conley)
President, National Tank Truck Carriers, Inc., and Mr. Conley's February 26,2009 e-mail
forwarding Mr. Bahia's e-mails to the U. S. Department ofTransportation's (DOT's) Federal
Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMC SA) and the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials
Safety Administration (PHMSA). You ask if a DOT specification cargo tank that is used
wholly within Canada or in cross-border service may be repaired in Canada in accordance
with the Canadian Standards Association B620 by a Transport Canada registered facility that
does not have a National Board Certificate of Authorization for the use ofthe "R" stamp or a
DOT "CT" number.
The answer is no. In accordance with 49 CFR 107 .502(b), no person may engage in the
manufacture, assembly, certification, inspection, or repair of a cargo tank or cargo tank motor
vehicle manufactured under the terms of a DOT specification or a DOT special permit unless
the person is registered with FMCSA's Hazardous Materials Division in the manner
prescribed in 49 CFR Part 107, Subpart F. FMCSA assigns each registered person a "CT"
registration number. In addition, § 107.503(c) requires each person who repairs a DOT
specification or special permit cargo tank or cargo tank motor vehicle to submit a copy ofthe
repair facility's current National Board Certificate of Authorization for the use of the "R"
stamp (or an ASME Certificate ofAuthorization for the use ofthe ASME "U" stamp). Also,
the definitions for a cargo tank "registered inspector," prescribed in § 171.8, and cargo tank
"manufacturer," prescribed in § 178.320, require that both must register with the DOT in

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conformance with 49 CFR Part 107, Subpart F. Also, note that in accordance with § 171.12,
cargo tank periodic retests and inspections required by § 173.33 may be performed in
accordance with 49 CFR Part 180 or Transport Canada's Transportation of Dangerous Goods
(TOG) regulations provided the intervals prescribed in Part 180 are met.
I hope this satisfies your request.
Sin~_
Hattie L. Mitchell
Chief, Regulatory Review and Reinvention
Office of Hazardous Materials Standards
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Drakeford. Carolyn <PHMSA>
From: Supko, Ben <PHMSA>
Sent: Thursday, February 26,20092:10 PM
To: Drakeford, Carolyn <PHMSA>
Cc: Gorsky, Susan <PHMSA>
Subject: RE: Fwd: RE: Trimac - CT facilities in Canada
From: John Conley [mailto:jconley@Tanktruck.orgJ
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:13 PM
To: Rattan Bahia; Simmons, James <FMCSA>; Richard, Bob <PHIVlSA>; Willke, Ted <PHMSA>
Cc: greenk@tc.gc.ca
Subject: RE: Fwd: RE: Trimac - CT facilities in Canada
Bob and James
We still need to an answer to this question which we were asked about at
COHMED.
I have highlighted the key question. Would it be better if I submitted a formal
request for int ion? I fear that would take longer.
Can a TC facility perform repairs on DOT/MC specification tank if it does not hold
an R stamp or a CT number?
John
»> Rattan Bahia 1/28/2009 9:57 AM »>
I looked through the regs again this morning after I emailed you.
It is seems to me, though I would like it confirmed by US DOT, that if a US DOT
spec tank that is involved in transborder operations, then a TC regsitered facility
can perform the inspections and tests, without being registered with a CT number.
What is not absolutely clear to mel is whether
repairs to a transborder US DOT spec tank can be
performedl In Canada l by a TC registered facility
that does not have the R Stamp nor has CT number.
this needs to be clarified.
Kevin Bleeks is correct and all the Trimac facilities that have CT numbers also
have TC registrations.
We want to eliminate CT registrations for Canadian operations if we are permitted
to repair US DOT transborder spec tanks in accordance with TC requirements.
John we are having some high level meetings in the next or so and this item is
a hot topic, so any help in this is appreciated.
Rattan Bahia
(403) 298-5114
»> "John Conley" <jconley@Tanktruck.org> 1/28/2009 9:30 AM »>
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I will check
In 1 I don't know how US rules should apply if tank never enters US
In 2 does facility also have CT number or just TC
I talked to kenin Bleeks here and he said that a Canadian
Facility with CT number also MUST have a Canadian registration
john
---Original Message----From:
"Rattan Bahia" <rbahia@trimac.com>
To: "jconley@Tanktruck.org" <jconley@Tanktruck.org>
Sent: 1/28/09 9:03 AM
Subject: Trimac CT facilities in Canada
John, this may be an opportune time to ask this question, as I understand you're in
meetings today with Joe Evans, US DOT.
As you know we have many CT registered facilities in both US and Canada. Concerning
the Canadian CT registered operations;
1. DOT and MC spec tanks that are not used for dangerous goods in the US and only
and always operate in Canada can these tanks be inspected, tested and repaired in
accordance with the Transport Canada CSA B620 requirements ie. by a facility
registered with Transport Canada. Bearing in mind that such facilities will not
have the NBIC R stamp, nor be registered with a CT number.
2. DOT and MC spec tanks that may be used in transborder operations - can these
tanks be inspected, tested and repaired in accordance with the Transport Canada CSA
B620 requirements ie. by a facility registered with Transport Canada. Bearing in
mind that such facilities will not have the NBIC R stamp, nor be registered with a
CT number.
Thanks John
Rattan Bahia
(403) 298 5114
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