# Fletcher & Sippel LLC — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation

**Citation:** 21-0006  
**Type / status:** guidance / guidance  
**Agency:** Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration  
**Effective:** Not stated  
**Published:** 2021-03-26

21-0006 response to Fletcher & Sippel LLC concerning 171.8.

## Document text

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U.S. Department
of Transportation
Pipeline and Hazardous
Materials Safety
Administration
March 26, 2021
Michael Barron
Fletcher & Sippel LLC
29 N Upper Wacker Dr. #800
Chicago, IL 60606
Reference No. 21-0006
Dear Mr. Barron:
This letter is in response to your January 26, 2021, email requesting clarification of the
Hazardous Materials Regulations (HMR; 49 CFR Parts 171-180) applicable to the meaning of
private track or private siding as defined in § 171.8. You describe a hypothetical scenario
between a railroad (i.e., a rail carrier) and a private company, involving leased property and
interchange tracks. In your scenario, the private company receives hazardous materials from the
railroad by way of the interchange tracks, which are owned by the private company but on
property (and inside a rail yard) owned by the railroad and leased to the private company. The
interchange tracks connect the private company tracks and the railroad tracks. Further, you state
that the lease is “on a non-exclusive basis”; however, you add that this is so that the railroad can
deliver and pull cars on the interchange tracks. Therefore, in this arrangement, the railroad only
uses the interchange tracks to exchange cars with the private company; and the hazardous
materials are subsequently unloaded on the private company’s own tracks by the private
company. You ask whether the interchange tracks meet the definition of a “private track” or
“private siding.”
The answer is yes only if the interchange tracks are used solely by the railroad and the private
company for the purpose of moving cars shipped to or by the private company. The definition
of “private track” or “private siding” includes a track that is leased by a railroad to a lessee,
where the lease provides for, and actual practice entails, exclusive use of that trackage by the
lessee and/or a general system railroad for purpose of moving only cars shipped to or by the
lessee, and where the lessor otherwise exercises no control over or responsibility for the trackage
or the cars on the trackage. Use of the interchange tracks by the railroad for the purpose of
delivery and exchanging cars does not preclude the interchange tracks from the exclusive use
criteria. However, if this interchange track has users other than these two entities, the
interchange tracks would no longer be considered “private track” or “private siding” for
purposes of the HMR.
I hope this information is helpful. Please contact us if we can be of further assistance.
Sincerely,
1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE
Washington, DC 20590
Dirk Der Kinderen
Chief, Standards Development Branch
Standards and Rulemaking Division

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From: Dodd, Alice (PHMSA)
To: Hillman, Kenetha CTR (PHMSA)
Subject: FW: Interpretation of a rule
Date: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 3:14:18 PM
Attachments: image004.png
Importance: High
Casey
21-0006
I was going to assign this to Eugenio but after Dirk said he was out so I was going to skip him for now.
The one I’m closing out is complicated so I will send you the next one.
Thanks,
Alice
From: DerKinderen, Dirk (PHMSA)
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:42 AM
To: Hazmat Interps <hazmatinterps@dot.gov>
Cc: Horsley, Adam (PHMSA) <adam.horsley@dot.gov>
Subject: FW: Interpretation of a rule
Importance: High
Alice,
Please process the below request for assignment to staff.
I believe Safiya (from counsel) had worked on some private track/siding issue in the recent past so
you may want to include a note for the specialist who is assigned this interp request that it is
recommended to work with Safiya on the substance of the response.
Thanks,
Dirk Der Kinderen
Chief, Standards Development Branch
PHMSA
202-366-4460
From: Horsley, Adam (PHMSA)
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:34 AM
To: DerKinderen, Dirk (PHMSA) <Dirk.DerKinderen@dot.gov>
Cc: Tackett, Christina (PHMSA) <christina.tackett@dot.gov>; Kelley, Shane (PHMSA)
<shane.kelley@dot.gov>
Subject: FW: Interpretation of a rule
Importance: High
Hi Dirk,
When you have time, we have received a request for interpretation on private track. Please let us
know if you have any questions.
Best,

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- Adam
Adam Horsley
Deputy Assistant Chief Counsel, Office of Chief Counsel
US Department of Transportation
Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration
1200 New Jersey Avenue, S.E., Washington, D.C. 20590
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From: Michael J. Barron [mailto:MBarron@fletcher-sippel.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 4:05 PM
To: Chief Counsel, PHMSA (PHMSA) <phmsachiefcounsel@dot.gov>
Subject: Interpretation of a rule
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Good afternoon. I am an attorney in private practice in the City of Chicago with
the firm of Fletcher & Sippel.
This is a request for an interpretation of a rule.
Under 49 CFR 171.78, Private track or Private siding means:
(i) Track located outside of a carrier's right-of-way, yard, or terminals where the
carrier does not own the rails, ties, roadbed, or right-of-way, or
(ii) Track leased by a railroad to a lessee, where the lease provides for, and
actual practice entails, exclusive use of that trackage by the lessee and/or a
general system railroad for purpose of moving only cars shipped to or by the
lessee, and where the lessor otherwise exercises no control over or

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responsibility for the trackage or the cars on the trackage.
The following hypothetical will provide the basis for the question:
Customer receives hazardous materials via a common carrier railroad to
unload. The unloading is done on the customer’s own tracks and land and the
customer has exclusive use of those tracks Only customer moves cars on and
off these tracks.
Connecting to the customer’s tracks are the “interchange” tracks. The
customer’s tracks are connected to one end of the “interchange” tracks and
the railroad connection is on the other end. The “interchange” tracks are used
to exchange cars between the railroad and the customer.
The “interchange” tracks are owned by the customer.
The “interchange” tracks are located inside a yard owned by the railroad.
The railroad is leasing the property under the “interchange tracks” to the
customer.
The lease is on a non-exclusive basis. This is so railroad can deliver and pull cars
on the “interchange” tracks. Otherwise, railroad cannot be on the tracks so
exchange of cars would be impossible. Railroad has no other reason to be on
these tracks.
Question:
Are these customer “interchange” tracks considered a “Private track or Private
siding”?
Michael Barron
312-252-1511
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

## Provenance

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- Source: <https://www.phmsa.dot.gov/sites/phmsa.dot.gov/files/docs/standards-rulemaking/hazmat/interpretations/74831/210006.pdf>
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