# AllTranstek, LLC — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation

**Citation:** 22-0094  
**Type / status:** guidance / guidance  
**Agency:** Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration  
**Effective:** Not stated  
**Published:** 2023-01-26

22-0094 response to AllTranstek, LLC concerning 180.509.

## Document text

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1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE
Washington, DC 20590
U.S. Department
of Transportation
Pipeline and Hazardous
Materials Safety
Administration
January 17, 2023
Larry Loman
Director, Engineering
AllTranstek, LLC
1101 W. 31st Street, Suite 200
Downers Grove, IL 60515
Reference No. 22-0094
Dear Mr. Loman:
This letter is in response to your September 7, 2022, email requesting clarification of the
Hazardous Materials Regulations (HMR; 49 CFR Parts 171-180) applicable to structural
integrity inspections and testing for rubber-lined DOT 111A100W5 tank cars that were qualified
for service by a Canadian tank car facility. In your email, you state that these tank cars were
constructed with exterior heater coils that cover the tank shell butt welds and that fact
complicates the ability to inspect and test the structural integrity of the tank shell butt welds in
accordance with § 180.509(e)(1)(iii). You further state that it is your understanding that this is
not required for rubber-lined tank cars with reinforced tank shell butt welds until such time the
lining is removed in accordance with § 180.509(e)(3). You ask whether the heater coils that
cover the tank shell butt welds would allow for the butt welds to be treated as reinforced tank
shell butt welds, thereby only requiring inspection at the time of lining removal or application.
The answer is no, having heater coils that cover the tank shell butt welds would not constitute
reinforced tank shell butt welds. However, this fact would not itself require the tank cars owner
to cut the heater coils to allow for inspection and testing of the tank shell butt welds within two
(2) feet of the bottom longitudinal centerline. As stated in § 180.509(e)(1)(iii), the tank shell butt
welds must be tested unless the tank car owner can determine by analysis—e.g., finite element
analysis, damage-tolerance analysis, or service reliability assessment—that the structure will not
develop defects that reduce the design level of safety and reliability or fail within its operational
life or prior to the next required inspection. Please note the tank car owner must also maintain all
documentation used to make such determination at its principal place of business and make the
data available to the Federal Railroad Administration or an authorized representative of the
Department upon request.
I hope this information is helpful. Please contact us if we can be of further assistance.
Sincerely,
Dirk Der Kinderen
Chief, Standards Development Branch
Standards and Rulemaking Division

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Casey
22-0094
From: INFOCNTR (PHMSA)
To: Subject: Date: Dodd, Alice (PHMSA); Hazmat Interps
FW: 49 CFR 180.509(e)(3) Interpretation Request
Friday, September 16, 2022 2:05:49 PM
Hi Alice and team,
Rachel (HMIC)
Please see the following LOI request. They included their mailing address in a separate email. Thank you.
From: Larry Loman <loman@alltranstek.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 2:47 PM
To: INFOCNTR (PHMSA) <INFOCNTR.INFOCNTR@dot.gov>
Cc: Dave Ronzani <ronzani@alltranstek.com>
Subject: RE: 49 CFR 180.509(e)(3) Interpretation Request
CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Department of Transportation (DOT). Do not
click on links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
Larry Loman
AllTranstek
1101 W 31st Street
Suite 200
Downers Grove, IL 60515
Thank you and let me know if you need anything else.
Larry
Larry Loman
Director, Engineering
AllTranstek, LLC
Office: 630-829-9441
Cell: 708-899-8203
loman@alltranstek.com
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files or previous e-mail messages attached to it may contain
confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended
recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this
transmission is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately notify the sender. Please destroy the
original transmission and its attachments without reading or saving in any manner. Thank you, AllTranstek, LLC.
From: INFOCNTR (PHMSA) <INFOCNTR.INFOCNTR@dot.gov>
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 11:41 AM
To: Larry Loman <loman@alltranstek.com>
Cc: Dave Ronzani <ronzani@alltranstek.com>
Subject: RE: 49 CFR 180.509(e)(3) Interpretation Request
Dear Larry,
We have received your request for a written letter of interpretation regarding the hazardous materials

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regulations (49 CFR Parts 171-180). The hazardous materials regulations are available at the following URL:
https://www.phmsa.dot.gov/phmsa-regulations
However, before we can submit your request for processing, please respond to this email with:
Physical Mailing Address
Sincerely,
Rachel, Hazardous Materials Specialist
An e-mail response from this office is considered informal guidance. Formal guidance may be requested in
accordance with 49 CFR 105.20. https://www.phmsa.dot.gov/standards-rulemaking/hazmat/hazardous-
materials-information-center
From: Larry Loman <loman@alltranstek.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 5:36 PM
To: INFOCNTR (PHMSA) <INFOCNTR.INFOCNTR@dot.gov>
Cc: Dave Ronzani <ronzani@alltranstek.com>
Subject: 49 CFR 180.509(e)(3) Interpretation Request
CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Department of Transportation (DOT). Do not
click on links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
AllTranstek has a customer shipping Sodium Hypochlorite (Bleach) in DOT 111A100W5 tank cars with a
qualified interior rubber lining installed in 2012. Structural integrity inspections are due this year per
49CFR180.509(e) and the subject jacketed cars have exterior heater coils. Twenty (20) of these cars were
qualified by a Canadian tank car facility, so Transport Canada was contacted about the inspection of the
tank shell butt welds under the exterior heater coils.
Shaun Singh of Transport Canada has indicated that the heater coils are not to be cut out for the sole
purpose of structural integrity inspection. He also stated that if any tank butt shell welds within 24 inches of
the bottom longitudinal centerline are covered by exterior heater coils, these welds still need to be
inspected from the interior of the tank unless lined as per clause 9.5.7.4 (TP14877).
9.5.7.4 In the case of tank cars with a lining, the inspection requirements of clause 9.5.7.2.c do not
apply to a tank shell butt weld covered on the outside by a reinforcing plate or any other structural
element welded to the tank shell until the time of lining removal or application.
The email request and response from Shaun Singh of Transport Canada are attached.
180.509(e)(1)(iii) requires inspection of the tank shell butt welds within 2 feet of the longitudinal centerline.
Similar to clause 9.5.7.4 of TP14877, 49 CFR 180.509(e)(3) states:
The inspection requirements of paragraph (e)(1)(iii) of this section do not apply to reinforced tank
shell butt welds until the time of lining removal or application for tank cars with an internal lead,

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glass, or rubber lining.
At the time of lining replacement, the tank shell butt welds will be inspected from the tank interior using the
visual and/or ultrasonic inspection method(s). In between lining replacements, during structural integrity
inspections, the welds not covered by the heater coils will be inspected from the exterior through inspection
ports cut in the jacket using the visual and/or remote visual inspection method(s).
Cutting the heater coil to inspect these welds under the coils and the coil attachment fillet welds could do
more harm than good because these tank shell butt welds are not known to exhibit cracking or other
defects from stress.
Question: These cars will be operating or may be qualified in the United States under 49CFR, so can the
heater coil over a tank shell butt weld be treated like a “reinforced tank shell butt weld” as permitted by
Transport Canada and not be cut/removed for inspection?
Thank you,
Larry
Larry Loman
Director, Engineering
AllTranstek, LLC
Office: 630-829-9441
Cell: 708-899-8203
loman@alltranstek.com
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files or previous e-mail messages attached to it may contain
confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended
recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this
transmission is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately notify the sender. Please destroy the
original transmission and its attachments without reading or saving in any manner. Thank you, AllTranstek, LLC.

## Provenance

- Official: Yes
- Source: <https://www.phmsa.dot.gov/sites/phmsa.dot.gov/files/docs/standards-rulemaking/hazmat/interpretations/77236/220094.pdf>
- Source ID: `phmsa`
- SHA-256: `28dd097ec49a79b227884ae0fac2fd22f7ee638e55771cd11a49c0f00f945139`
- Retrieved: 2026-08-20T00:59:31.977Z
- Exported: 2026-08-22T19:22:13.416Z
- Document slug: `phmsa-interpretation-22-0094`

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