# Greif Bros. Corporation — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation

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- **citation:** 00-0216
- **title:** Greif Bros. Corporation — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation
- **source type:** guidance
- **agency:** Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration
- **status:** guidance
- **official:** true
- **published on:** 2001-02-12
- **effective on:** Not available
- **summary:** 00-0216 response to Greif Bros. Corporation concerning 178.601.
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FEB 1 2 2001
Mr. Gerald A. Gordon, Sc.D
Ref. No: 00-0216
Regulatory Compliance Specialist
Greif Bros. Corporation
245 Eisenhower Lane South
Lombard, Illinois 60148
Dear Mr. Gordon:
This is in response to your August 2, 2000, letter requesting clarification regarding what constitutes a
"different packaging" under the Hazardous Materials Regulations (HMR; 49 CFR Parts 171-180).
Specifically you ask whether building a barrier into the sidewall of an otherwise identical fiber drum
requires a new design qualification test. You provided information to support your belief that such a
change should not require testing as a "different packaging."
It is your position that as long as critical mechanical and structural properties of the combined sidewall
remain essentially the same, minor variations in sidewall composition (e.g., the presence of very thin
layers of polyethylene or aluminum foil) should not cause the drum to be considered a "different
packaging."
We disagree. You are changing both the design and manner of construction of the drum by
sandwiching layers of polyethylene or aluminum foil between the layers of fiberboard. The drum is a
"different packaging" as defined in § 178.601 and, therefore, design qualification testing is required. If,
however, a polyethylene or aluminum foil barrier is applied to the inside surface of a packaging, it is
considered a surface treatment and is not considered a different packaging.
I hope this information is helpful.
Sincerely,
Edward T. Mazzullo
Director, Office of Hazardous
Materials Standards
000216

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245 Eisenhower Lane South
Lombard, Illinois 60148
GREIF
Tel.
Fax:
(630) 620-3427
(630) 620-3400
www.greif.com
BROS. CORPORATION
August 2, 2000
517860/
Mr. Robert A. Monniere, Attorney
Office of the Chief Counsel
Research and Special Programs Administration
00-0216
U.S. Department of Transportation
400 Seventh Street, S.W.
Washington, D.C. 20590
Dear Mr. Monniere:
I am writing in response to your letter of May 16, 2000, which offered a compromise in
light of Greif's corrective actions in areas pertaining to DOT's Notice of Proposed
Violation of January 11, 1999, but also raised the issue of the definition of the material of
construction of a fibre drum sidewall, and whether building a barrier into the sidewall of an
otherwise identical drum necessitates a new design qualification test. Per our telephone
conversation of this morning, Greif Bros. Corporation is not prepared to accept the
compromise offered by the Acting Chief Counsel, until this issue has been resolved.
In collaboration with our Technical Advisor, Gordon Rousseau of HMT Associates, we
have prepared a discussion of this issue, which is attached. We hope this discussion will
persuade DOT that as long as critical mechanical and structural properties of the
combined sidewall remain essentially the same, minor variations in sidewall composition
(e.g., the presence of very thin layers of polyethylene or aluminum foil) should not cause
the drum to be considered "different", requiring a new design qualification test.
It is my understanding that as a result of our rejection of the compromise offer and the
submission our discussion of the issue, resolution of this matter will be put on hold while
DOT considers our arguments and decides what action it should take.
Thank you for your advice and assistance in this matter.
Regulatory Compliance Specialist
Cc:
Gordon Rousseau
Geof Eaton
Leigh Evans
C. J. Guilbeau
Peter Apostoluk
Karl Svendsen
Joe Grebe
DOT-17-ET
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