# CTC Certified Training Co. — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation

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- **citation:** 02-0214
- **title:** CTC Certified Training Co. — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation
- **source type:** guidance
- **agency:** Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration
- **status:** guidance
- **official:** true
- **published on:** 2002-12-17
- **effective on:** Not available
- **summary:** 02-0214 response to CTC Certified Training Co. concerning 172.702.
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of Transportation
J.S. Department
400 Seventh St., S.W.
Special Programs
Research and
Washington, D.C. 20590
Administration
DEC 17 2002
Mr. Darrell Garton
62537 North Star Dr.
CTC Certified Training Co.
:: Ref. No. 02-0214
Montrose, CO 81401
Dear Mr. Garton:
This is in response to your August 13, 2002 letter concerning training requirements under the
Hazardous Materials Requirements (HMR; 49 CFR Parts 171-180). Specifically, you ask if an
Independent Inspection Agency (IIA) can remain "independent" after it has performed one of the
to that entity.
training requirements: that are the responsibility of its client and objectively continue being an ITA
Section 172.702(a) specifies that the hazmat employer; as defined in § 171:8, is required to ensure
that each of its hazmat employees are trained in accordance with the requirements prescribed in
"subpart I of part 172. There are no requirements in this subpart for persons that provide training
or specifics on training programs. Thus, an IIA could also be a trainer.
involvement with, a cylinder. manufacturer- not cylinder requalifiers.
The IIA conflict-of-interest prohibition in § 107.803(b) only applies to control by, or a financial
I hope this satisfies your request.
Sincerely,
Delma Fallo
Delmer F. Billings
Chief, Standards Development
Office of Hazardous Materials Standards
• 172.702
020214

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Tuesday, August 13, 2002 2:18 PM
CTC Seminars 970 240-8146
p.03
CIC Certified Training Co.
Montrose, CO USA 81401
62537 North Star Dr
Johnsen
Tel. (970)240-3391
email: darrell@ cteseminars.com
Fax (970)240-8146
$172.704
August 13, 2002
Training
Office of Hazardous Materials
Don Hilts
02-0214
Washington, DC 20590
St. SW
Dear Don,
Inspection Agencies (IIA's), as they pertain to cylinder retest facilities.
I am writing this letter to request an interpretation on the allowable functions of the Independent
requirements of 49 CFR 172.704. Currently there are a number of IIA's who are representing
My specific question pertains to the General Awareness and Function Specific training
that the training requirement is satisfied during their inspection of the retest facility. There are
also some who are performing training seminars for the purpose of satisfying this requirement.
whether an IIA can truly remain "independent" after they have performed one of the required
My question is not whether an IIA is capable of providing the necessary training, but rather,
training is adequate... I trained you!", they have lost their "independent" status; are no longer a
functions that are the responsibility of their client. As soon as an IIA says, "Of course your
"third party"; and have established a rather substantial conflict of interest. This would be no
line to offer assistance, and then turned around and inspected the very pieces that they had **
different than if the IIA personnel at a cylinder manufacturing facility stepped into the production
I fully recognize that it has been standard practice over the years for the IIA to help out in areas in
their role in that capacity. However, when it comes to formal training, it seems to me that this is
which the retester may be lacking knowledge or understanding, and I would not want to diminish
one of the requirements that the IIA is there to verify has been fulfilled by the retester, not
something that the IIA is to provide.
Thank you for your time and consideration in this matter.
Best regards,
Rawl I fit
cc: Hattic Mitchell
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