{"operation":"document","citation":"04-0260","title":"J & R Brokerage, Inc. — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation","source_type":"guidance","agency":"Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration","status":"guidance","official":true,"published_on":"2005-01-31","effective_on":null,"summary":"04-0260 response to J & R Brokerage, Inc. concerning 171.1, 172.500, 172.504, 177.848.","machine_formats":{"json":"https://regulus.evalyn.ai/document/phmsa-interpretation-04-0260.json","markdown":"https://regulus.evalyn.ai/document/phmsa-interpretation-04-0260.md"},"app_url":"https://regulus.evalyn.ai/document/phmsa-interpretation-04-0260","source_url":"https://www.phmsa.dot.gov/sites/phmsa.dot.gov/files/legacy/interpretations/Interpretation%20Files/2004/040260.pdf","body":"<<<PAGE 1>>>\n\nof Transportation\nU.S. Department\n400 Seventh St., S.W.\nWashington, D.C. 20590\nResearch and\nSpecial Programs\nAdministration\nJAN 3 1 2005\nMr. John F. Martin\nRef No.: 04-0260\nGeneral Manager-\nJ& R Brokerage, Inc.\n2641 Greenleaf Avenue\nElk Grove Village, IL 60007\nDear Mr. Martin:\nThis responds to your November 4, 2004 letters asking several questions related to the\nHazardous Materials Regulations (HMR; 49 CFR Parts 171-180). Your questions are\nparaphrased and answered as follows:\nQ1.\nWhat is the meaning of the phrase \"not adjacent to\" as used in the segregation and\nseparation requirements specified in § 177.848(e)(3)?\nAl.\nThe requirement for non-adjacent loading is considered satisfied if the packages\nare separated in such a manner (for example, by using barriers, packages of non-\nhazardous materials, or intervening space) that their contents would not\ncommingle in the event of leakage.\nQ2.\nDoes a driver require a hazardous materials endorsement on his license for a load\nconsisting of 25 pounds of a Table 2 material?\nA2.\nThe requirements for a Commercial Drivers License (CDL) or a hazardous\nmaterials endorsement on a CDL are found in 49 CFR Parts 383 and 391. They\nfall under the jurisdiction of the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration\n(FMCSA; http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/). For information on hazardous materials\nendorsements please contact the Hazardous Materials Division of the FMCSA at\n(202) 366-6121.\nQ3.\nIf a carrier temporarily stores a load of hazardous materials on his property is the\nshipment in \"transportation\" and subject to the HMR?\nA3.\nFor the purposes of the HMR, the term \"transportation\" refers to the movement of\nproperty and the loading, unloading, or storage incidental to that movement.\n'Storage incidental to movement\" means storage that takes place between the\nreaches a desination. This, had fious material stored temporainy oh time it\ncarrier's property is subject to all applicable HMR requirements.\nQ4.\nSection 172.500(b)(6) indicates that the subpart does not apply to combustible\nliquids in non-bulk packagings. Does this provide relief only from the placarding\nrequirements?\n72.504\n171.1\n12.501\n117.848\n040260\n\n<<<PAGE 2>>>\n\nA4.\nYes. Note that § 173.150(f)(2) excepts a combustible liquid from all requirements\nof the HMR (referred to as \"the subchapter\") when it is in a non-bulk package and\ndoes not meet the definition of a hazardous substance, hazardous waste, or marine\npollutant. A combustible liquid in a bulk package or a combustible liquid that is a\nhazardous substance, hazardous waste, or marine pollutant may follow the\nexception provided in § 173.150(f)(3).\nQ5.\nAre limited quantities and ORM-D shipments listed in § 172.500(b) excepted\nfrom placarding requirements?\nA5.\nYes. The provisions of § 172.500(b) except limited quantities and ORM-D\nmaterials from placarding requirements. However, the HMR also provide\nadditional exceptions for limited quantity and ORM-D materials. Section\nreferences to those exceptions are provided in Column 8A of the Hazardous\nMaterials Table (HMT; § 172.101), as applicable.\nQ6.\nIs a bulk packaging containing only the residue of a hazardous material subject to\nplacarding requirements?\nA6.\nIn accordance with § 173.29(a), a packaging containing only the residue of a\nhazardous material must be offered for transportation and transported in the same\nmanner as when it previously contained a greater quantity of that hazardous\nmaterial. Generallý, bulk packagings containing the residue of a hazardous\nmaterial will require placarding.\nI hope this information is helpful. Please contact us if you require additional assistance.\nSincerely\nChief, Standards Development\nOffice of Hazardous Materials Standards\n\n<<<PAGE 3>>>\n\nSupko\nJ& R Brokerage, Inc.\n2641 Greenleaf Avenue\n$177.848\nElk Grove Village, IL 60007\nPhone # 847-640-5250\nsegregation\nNovember 4, 2004\n04-0260\nRE: Request for clarification of hazardous materials regulations.\nTo: Mr. Edward T. Mazzullo\nDirector, Office of Hazardous Materials Standards\n400 7* Street S.W.\nU.S. DOT/RSPA (DHM-10)\nWashington, D.C. 20590-001\nDear Sir,\nI am writing to you to request clarification of Part 177.848, Segregation of hazardous\nmaterials. Specifically in paragraph e, part 3 which outlines the meaning of the letter \"O\"\nin the segregation table. It states that \"Notwithstanding the methods of separation\nemployed, Class 8 liquids may not be loaded above or adjacent to Class 4 or Class 5\nmaterials; except that shippers may load truckload shipments of such materials together\nwhen it is know that the mixture of contents would not cause a fire or a dangerous\nevolution of heat or gas.\" Our question comes in the definition of \"adjacent to\". Does\nthis mean the materials cannot be on the same pallet, or on pallets next to each other, or\nwithin ten feet of each other, and so on? Is it also possible that this should be understood\nto mean that these materials should not be loaded together on a trailer at all unless the\nshipper loads a truckload shipment of such materials...etc.? If a shipper is allowed to\nis loaded of a different Class 8 material from a different shipper?\nload a less than truckload shipment of these materials together, what if another shipment\nPlease help clarify this issue and thank you in advance for your help.\nPlease fax a response at your convenience to 847-228-1215.\nRespectfully yours,\n.....\nJohn F. Martin\nGeneral Manager\nJ & R Brokerage, Inc.\n\n<<<PAGE 4>>>\n\nSupko\nJ & R Brokerage, Inc.\n2641 Greenleat Avenue\nPhone # 847-640-5250\nElk Grove Village, IL 60007\n5171.1\nApplicability\nNovember 4, 2004\n04-02.80\nRE: Request for clarification of hazardous materials regulations.\nTo: Mr. Edward T. Mazzullo\nDirector, Office of Hazardous Materials Standards\n400 7* Street S.W.\nU.S. DOT/RSPA (DHM-10)\nWashington, D.C. 20590-001\nDear Sir,\nI am writing to you to request clarification on a hazardous materials issue. If a carrier is\nhauling a load of freight, for example, that has 25 pounds of Table 2 material from\n172.504 is the driver required to have a hazardous materials endorsement on his license?\nAlso, if a carrier is hauling a load of hazardous materials and the trailer is dropped in the\ndock door (but not being loaded or unloaded) or parking lot of the carrier's facility or is\ndropped at the carrier's fenced and secured drop yard is the freight considered \"in transit\"\nand DOT regulations apply?\nPlease fax a response at your convenience to 847-228-1215.\nRespectfully yours,\nJot 1.94t\nJohn F. Martin\nGeneral Manager\nJ & R Brokerage, Inc.\n\n<<<PAGE 5>>>\n\nSupko\nJ & R Brokerage, Inc.\n5112.500 (bX6)\n2641 Greenleaf Avenue\nElk Grove Village, IL 60007\n§172-508(b) (3)°f)\nPhone # 847-640-5250\nNovember 4, 2004\nPlaearding\nRE: Request for clarification of hazardous materials regulations.\n04-0260\nTo: Mr. Edward T. Mazzullo\nDirector, Office of Hazardous Materials Standards\n400 7* Street S.W.\nU.S. DOT/RSPA (DHM-10)\nWashington, D.C. 20590-001\nDear Sir,\nI am writing to you to request clarification of an issue regarding 172.500 b, 6 which states\nthat \"this subpart does not apply to - combustible liquids in non-bulk packaging.\" Is this\nonly referring to the placarding subpart? Is the driver still required to carry the hazardous\nmaterials endorsement on his license and do all other hazmat regulations apply? Or is\nthis similar to the exception for wet batteries under 49 CFR 173.159?\nIf the driver is required to be endorsed and all other regs apply, then does the same hold\ntrue for \"limited quantity\" and \"ORM-D\" shipments as well since they are treated equally\nunder 172.500 b, 3 and 2, respectively?\nPlease fax a response at your convenience to 847-228-1215.\nRespectfully yours\npoke Hat\nJohn F. Martin\nGeneral Manager\nJ & R Brokerage, Inc.\n\n<<<PAGE 6>>>\n\nSupko\nJ& R Brokerage, Inc.\n2641 Greenleaf Avenue\n5172-504\nElk Grove Village, IL 60007\nPhone # 847-640-5250\nPlacarding\nNovember 4, 2004\n04-0260\nRE: Request for clarification of hazardous materials regulations.\nTo: Mr. Edward T. Mazzullo\nU.S. DOT/RSPA (DHM-10)\nDirector, Office of Hazardous Materials Standards\n400 7* Street S.W.\nWashington, D.C. 20590-001\nDear Sir,\nI am writing to you to request clarification of an issue regarding 172.504 Table 2. If a\nand then the customer is returning the totes to the shipper how should we treat the empty\nshipper is shipping a flammable liquid in bulk totes (300 gallon capacity to a customer,\ntotes? I know that only non-bulk packagings containing residue of a hazardous material\nare excepted from placarding requirements but while the weight of 3 totes is 1,500\npounds the weight of the residue inside, although difficult to determine, is probably only\n200 to 300 pounds. Would this shipment be excepted from placarding requirements?\nPlease fax a response at your convenience to 847-228-1215.\nRespectfully yours,\nMartin\nGeneral Manager\nJ & R Brokerage, Inc.","truncated":false,"body_characters":8844}