# CTC Certified Training Co. — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation

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- **citation:** 07-0166R
- **title:** CTC Certified Training Co. — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation
- **source type:** guidance
- **agency:** Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration
- **status:** guidance
- **official:** true
- **published on:** 2022-04-25
- **effective on:** Not available
- **summary:** 07-0166R response to CTC Certified Training Co. concerning 180.209.
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1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE
Washington, DC 20590
U.S. Department
of Transportation
Pipeline and Hazardous
Materials Safety
Administration
April 25, 2022
Darrel K. Garton
CTC Certified Training Co.
62537 North Star Drive
Montrose, CO 81401
Reference No. 07-0166R
Dear Mr. Garton:
This letter is a revised response to your August 27, 2007, letter requesting clarification of the
Hazardous Materials Regulations (HMR; 49 CFR Parts 171-180) applicable to the eddy current
examination for DOT specification 3AL cylinders manufactured of aluminum alloy 6351-T6.
Recently, the Pipeline and Hazardous Material Safety Administration (PHMSA) received a
renewal application for a visual requalification identification number (VRIN) to add performing
of the eddy current examination for these cylinder types. PHMSA is revising this letter to clarify
that visual-only requalification approvals are not issued for a requalifier to perform the eddy
current examination.
We have paraphrased and answered your questions as follows:
Q1. You ask whether it is permissible for a cylinder retester—i.e., a requalifier—to
subcontract with an outside company who does not hold a current requalification
identification number (RIN) approval to provide the eddy current examination service, as
prescribed in § 180.209(m).
A1. The answer is yes. The HMR do not prohibit a person who does not hold a current RIN or
VRIN approval from performing the eddy current examination and visual inspection on a
DOT 3AL cylinder manufactured of aluminum alloy 6351-T6 on behalf of a RIN holder
that is performing the required pressure test. A person—e.g., a subcontractor—who is
proficient in eddy current examination may perform the eddy current examination under
the oversight of the approved RIN holder, subject to the terms of the RIN holder’s
approval. The approved RIN holder—i.e., the requalifier marking the cylinder—assumes
responsibility for outsourced functions performed by the eddy current tester when
marking the requalified cylinder with their RIN number. Please note, as a hazmat
employee performing a covered function, an eddy current tester is subject to HMR
requirements, including compliance with the test requirements in Appendix C to Part 180.

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Q2. You ask whether it is permissible for a cylinder retester—i.e., a requalifier—to
subcontract with an outside company who does hold a current RIN approval to provide
the eddy current examination service, as prescribed in § 180.209(m).
A2. The answer is yes. An outsourced RIN approval holder may perform the eddy current
examination and visual inspection on behalf of the requalifier that is performing the
required pressure test and marking of the cylinder. See also answer A1.
Q3. You ask whether it is possible for a company that is not a retester—i.e., a requalifier—to
obtain a VRIN for the purposes of eddy current examination and visual inspection only,
and then be authorized as a subcontractor in accordance with question Q2.
A3. The answer is no. PHMSA only issues VRINs in association with § 180.209(g) for
required visual inspections and does not issue a VRIN to perform the eddy current
examination in combination with a visual inspection on 3AL cylinders manufactured of
aluminum alloy 6351-T6. Specifically, only requalifications for exclusive use services
listed under Table 2 to paragraph (g) of § 180.209 are authorized for VRIN approval.
See 49 CFR 107.805(f)(1) and answer A1.
I hope this information is helpful. Please contact us if we can be of further assistance.
Sincerely,
Dirk Der Kinderen
Chief, Standards Development Branch
Standards and Rulemaking Division

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From: Baker, Yul (PHMSA)
To: Hillman, Kenetha CTR (PHMSA)
Subject: RE: 07-0166R
Date: Monday, April 25, 2022 12:34:34 PM
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Kenetha,
Unfortunately no, we have nothing to use as an incoming request. The original requester came in for a
visual requalification renewal and because he could not obtain the renewal, PHH-11 and PHH-25 held a
meeting to discuss the original interp (07-0166) and made the determination it had to be revised.
So the letter will go back to the original requester. His e-mail address is darrell@ctcseminars.com.
Mr. Yul Brenner Baker Jr.
Transportation Regulations Specialist, Standards Development
USDOT, PHMSA
Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration
1200 New Jersey Ave, SE, Washington, DC, 20590
Office number: 202-493-0867
From: Hillman, Kenetha CTR (PHMSA) <kenetha.hillman.CTR@dot.gov>
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2022 12:21 PM
To: Baker, Yul (PHMSA) <yul.baker@dot.gov>
Subject: RE: 07-0166R
Ok, is there anything that I can use as the incoming request, I will need this for the long file.
Best regards,
Kenetha L. Hillman
Program Analyst II (InfiniSource Consulting Solutions - Contractor )
Office: 202.366.8553 ◊ Direct: 202.295.7406
From: Baker, Yul (PHMSA) <yul.baker@dot.gov>
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2022 12:15 PM
To: Hillman, Kenetha CTR (PHMSA) <kenetha.hillman.CTR@dot.gov>
Subject: RE: 07-0166R
Kenetha,
Give me a few minutes to verify this information. This revised letter was not drafted because of an
incoming request. I’ll provide additional information shortly.
Mr. Yul Brenner Baker Jr.
Transportation Regulations Specialist, Standards Development
USDOT, PHMSA

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Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration
1200 New Jersey Ave, SE, Washington, DC, 20590
Office number: 202-493-0867
From: Hillman, Kenetha CTR (PHMSA) <kenetha.hillman.CTR@dot.gov>
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2022 12:02 PM
To: Baker, Yul (PHMSA) <yul.baker@dot.gov>
Subject: FW: 07-0166R
Please provide the email address for the requester. Am I to add this to CMS and the Portal for
publishing as well?
Best regards,
Kenetha L. Hillman
Program Analyst II (InfiniSource Consulting Solutions - Contractor )
Office: 202.366.8553 ◊ Direct: 202.295.7406
From: DerKinderen, Dirk (PHMSA) <Dirk.DerKinderen@dot.gov>
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2022 10:42 AM
To: Baker, Yul (PHMSA) <yul.baker@dot.gov>
Cc: Casey, Candace (PHMSA) <candace.casey@dot.gov>; Hillman, Kenetha CTR (PHMSA)
<kenetha.hillman.CTR@dot.gov>
Subject: RE: 07-0166R
Yul,
Please work with Candace and Kenetha to make sure the letter gets sent to the correct requester
mailing address or email and that the old version is pulled off the website and replaced by this
revised version of 07-0166.
Thanks,
Dirk Der Kinderen
Chief, Standards Development Branch
PHMSA
202-366-4460 (desk)
202-365-4684 (cell)
From: Baker, Yul (PHMSA) <yul.baker@dot.gov>
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2022 7:24 AM
To: DerKinderen, Dirk (PHMSA) <Dirk.DerKinderen@dot.gov>
Subject: FW: 07-0166R
Morning Dirk,
FYI…Irwin is requesting the signed final version of the interp so he can write up the show cause letter.

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Mr. Yul Brenner Baker Jr.
Transportation Regulations Specialist, Standards Development
USDOT, PHMSA
Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration
1200 New Jersey Ave, SE, Washington, DC, 20590
Office number: 202-493-0867
From: Pascal, Irwin (PHMSA) <irwin.pascal@dot.gov>
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2022 7:00 AM
To: Baker, Yul (PHMSA) <yul.baker@dot.gov>
Subject: 07-0166R
Good Moring Yul
Any ETA on the revision?
Irwin Pascal CDGP
Transportation Specialist
Sciences and Engineering Division
Office of Hazardous Materials Safety
US Department of Transportation
Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration
1200 New Jersey Ave., SE
Washington, D.C. 20590-0001
Email: Irwin.pascal@dot.gov
Office: 202-366-8181 ◊ Fax: 202-366-3753
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