# Oklahoma LP Gas Administration — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation

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- **citation:** 08-0170
- **title:** Oklahoma LP Gas Administration — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation
- **source type:** guidance
- **agency:** Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration
- **status:** guidance
- **official:** true
- **published on:** 2008-10-03
- **effective on:** Not available
- **summary:** 08-0170 response to Oklahoma LP Gas Administration concerning 180.417.
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U.S. Department
of Transportation
Pipeline and Hazardous
Materials Safety
Administration
1200 New Jersey Ave.. S E
Washington, DC 20590
Mr. W.A. Glass
Oklahoma LP Gas Administrator
2 10 1 North Lincoln
Oklahoma City, OK 73 105
Ref. No.: 08-01 70
Dear Mr. Glass:
This is in response to your June 16,2008 letter requesting clarification of the Hazardous
Materials Regulations (HMR; 49 CFR Parts 17 1-1 80). Specifically, you ask if the intent of
$ 180.417(c) is to require each motor carrier operating a specification MC330 or MC33 1
cargo tank to make a written report if the cargo tank does not have manholes.
The answer is yes. Section 180.417(~)(3) states that after completion of the pressure test
specified in $ 180.407(g)(3), each person who operates an MC330 or MC33 1 cargo tank in
any service that may cause stress corrosion cracking must make a report containing the
information specified in $ 180.41 7(c). The testing requirements in €j 180.407(g)(3) do not
apply to cargo tanks that do not have manholes; however, that does not except the motor
carrier from the requirement to generate a report in accordance with 8 180.4 17(c)(3).
I hope this answers your inquiry
Sincerely,
Susan Gorsky
Acting chief, Standards Development
Office of Hazardous Materials Standards

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STATE OF o I U ~ I - I o ~ ~ LIQUEFIED PETROLEUM GAS ADMINISTRATION
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June 16, 2008
Mr. Edward T. Mazzullo
Director, Office of Hazardous Materials Standards
1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE East Bldg, 2nd Floor
Washington, DC 20590
Ref: DOT Question & Request for PHMSA Interpretation
Sir,
I have the following question:
Q: Is the intent of 49 CFR 180.417(C) to require each motor carrier
operating a Specification MC330 or MC331 cargo tank to make a
written report if the cargo tank does not have manholes?
Comment,
49 CFR 180.417(c) (1) would read more clearly if it had the wording
"of the portion" included as follows:
After completion qJ the portion of the pressure test specified in
180.407 ( g ) (3). . .
Gary Mcsonald
Oklahoma LP Gas Administration
Safety Code Enf. Officer
cc: W A. Glass
Okla. L.P. Gas Administrator
2101 North Lincoln
Oklahoma City, OK 73105
Phone (405) 521-2458
Fax (405) 521-6037
E-Mail: lpgasinfo@lpgas.state.ok.us
2101 N. LINCOLN BLVD. B-45 JIM THORPE BUILDING OKLAHOMA CITY, OKLAHOMA 73105-4990 (405) 521-2458 FAX (405) 521-6037
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LP Gas
From: gdmc@sbcglobal. net
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 12:37 PM
To: LPGAS
Cc: steverush@windstream.net; greg; larry
Subject: DOT question
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Here is a copy of a question I sent to DOT. I will send everyone a copy, when I get a reply
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The following was submitted to infocntr@dot.gov on Friday, June 13, 2008 at 13:42:57
Category: Qualification and Maintenance of Packagings (Sections 180.1 - 180.51 9)
CommentslQuestion: I have the following questions as to the intent of 49 CFR 180.417(c)(l), which contains the wording ....
"After completion of the pressure test specified in 180.407(g)(3)" ..... Should this sentence read? "After completion of the portion of
the pressure test specified in 180.407(9)(3) ... ... 180.407(9)(3) reads, "This paragraph does not apply to cargo tanks that do not
have manholes." Does this also mean the reporting requirements found in 180.417(c) do not apply to MC330 and 331 cargo tanks
that do not have manholes? Thank You Gary McDonald Oklahoma LP Gas Administration
Email: gdmc@sbcglobal.net
Phone: 405-521 -2458
*The above e-mail was sent, but a satisfactory response was not received. I received
a phone response, but it was not satisfactory.
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