# FIBA Technologies, Inc. — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation

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- **citation:** 15-0203
- **title:** FIBA Technologies, Inc. — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation
- **source type:** guidance
- **agency:** Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration
- **status:** guidance
- **official:** true
- **published on:** 2016-03-29
- **effective on:** Not available
- **summary:** 15-0203 response to FIBA Technologies, Inc. concerning 171.7, 172.702, 172.704, 180.207.
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U.S. Department
of Transportation
1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE
Washington, D.C. 20590
Materials Safet
ipeline and Hazardou
Administration
MAR 2 9 2016
Mr. Christopher R. Adams
Manager, Regulatory Affairs
FIBA Technologies, Inc.
P.O. Box 360
1535 Grafton Road
Millbury, MA 01527
Reference No. 15-0203
Dear Mr. Adams:
This letter is in response to your October 1, 2015, e-mail and letter requesting clarification of
the Hazardous Materials Regulations (HMR; 49 CFR Parts 171-180) applicable to training
requirements. Specifically, you refer to training for personnel who perform ultrasonic
examinations to requalify seamless steel cylinders and tubes and ask if the training
requirements for materials incorporated by reference in § 171.7(w) are acceptable under
§§ 172.702(c) and 180.207(d)(1). We have paraphrased your questions and answered them in
the order you provided:
Q1.
Are personnel requalifying United Nations (UN) pressure receptacles in conformance
with ISO 6406(E) Gas cylinders—Seamless steel gas cylinders—Periodic inspection
and testing, Second edition, February 2005 also required to comply with the
qualification and experience requirements in ISO 9712 Non-destructive testing—
Qualification and certification of non-destructive testing personnel? ISO 9712 is
referenced in Clause 11.4.3.5 of ISO 6406 but is not specifically prescribed in
§ 171.7?
A1.
The answer is yes. Because ISO 6406(E) is incorporated by reference into the HMR
under § 171.7, one must comply with all the requirements prescribed in that standard,
including the requirement to comply with ISO 9712, unless otherwise excepted under
the HMR. Based on your description, this would be considered function-specific
training under § 172.704(a) (2).
Q2.
Are FIBA Technologies, Inc. staff authorized to perform periodic inspection and
testing of seamless steel gas cylinders using the ultrasonic examination method
applied in conformance with ISO 6406, excepting that the equipment shall be operated
by, and its operation supervised by, personnel qualified and certified in conformance
with The American Society for Non-destructive Testing (ASNT) Recommended

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Practice No. SNT-TC-1A, Personnel Qualification and Certification in
Nondestructive Testing? This recommended practice is not prescribed in the HMR.
A2.
The answer is no. Please refer to Answer Al. FIBA is not authorized to perform
testing using personnel certified only to ASNT. Personnel must also be certified in
accordance with ISO 9712.
I hope this information is helpful. Please contact us if we can be of further assistance.
Sincerely,
T. Glenn Foster
Chief, Regulatory Review and Reinvention
Standards and Rulemaking Division
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Refeuence Mateuc
Dodd, Alice (PHMSA)
15-0203
From:
Geller, Shelby CTR (PHMSA)
Sent:
Tuesday, October 13, 2015 11:19 AM
To:
Subject:
Hazmat Interps
FW: FIBA Request for Letter of Interpretation Regarding UE Personnel Qualification
Attachments:
FIBA Request for Letter of Interpretation Regarding NDT Training.pdf
Dear Shante and Alice,
I also wanted to follow up on this request as I could not find it in the database.
Thanks,
Shelby
From: Geller, Shelby CTR (PHMSA)
To: Hazmat Interps
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 3:53 PM
Subject: FW: FIBA Request for Letter of Interpretation Regarding UE Personnel Qualification
Dear Shante and Alice,
Forwarded is a formal request for a letter of interpretation.
Thanks,
Shelby
From: Chris Adams [mailto:ChrisAdams@fibatech.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 3:30 PM
To: INFOCNTR (PHMSA
Subject: FIBA Request for Letter of Interpretation Regarding UE Personnel Qualification
To Whom It May Concern:
Attached is a request for a formal letter of interpretation from your office regarding questions we have regarding
training and qualifications of persons performing requalification of UN pressure receptacles. Please kindly confirm your
receipt of this letter. Do not hesitate to contact me if you have any questions or need any additional information.
Very truly yours,
Christopher R. Adams
Manager, Regulatory Affairs
FIBA Technologies, Inc.
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P.O. Box 360
FIBA TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
1535 Grafton Road
CHIBA
Millbury, MA 01527 U.S.A.
Fax: (508) 754-2254
Tel: (508) 887-7100
www.fibatech.com
QUALITY PRODUCTS-SERVICE
October 1, 2015
Standards and Rulemaking Division
Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration
U.S. Department of Transportation
East Building
1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE
Washington, DC 20590-0001
ATTN: Hazardous Materials Information Center
E-Mail: infocntr@dot.gov
SUBJECT: Request for a Letter of Interpretation
REF: 49 CPR §8171.7(w), 172.702(c) and 180.207(d)(1)
To Whom It May Concern:
FIBA Technologies, Inc. ("FIBA") holds numerous requalifier identification numbers (see attached Exhibit A) and each
special permits authorizing the use of NDT methods (rather than hydrostatic testing) to requalify cylinders and tubes (see
of these locations has personnel trained and certified to perform nondestructive testing (NDT) in accordance with several
attached Exhibit B). FIBA is a leader in the application of acoustic emission testing (AET) and ultrasonic examination
(UE) to the requalification of seamless steel cylinders and tubes and has been so for many years. FIBA has been an active
participant in the Compressed Gas Association (CGA) since 1977 and the FIBA Level III is a member of the American
Society for Nondestructive Testing (ASNT).
I am writing to ask that your office provide FIBA with a formal Letter of Interpretation regarding a matter of training
requirements. 49 CFR §180.207(d)(1) states:
requalified in accordance with ISO 6406 (IBR, see §171.7 of this subchapter). However, UN cylinders with a tensile
"Seamless steel: Each seamless steel UN pressure receptacle, including MEG's pressure receptacles, must be
strength greater than or equal to 950 MPa must be requalified by ultrasonic examination in accordance with ISO 6406. "
It is the position of FIBA that its UE technicians and managers, who are trained in accordance with ASNT Recommended
requalify seamless steel gas cylinders and tubes according to ISO 6406, Gas cylinders - Seamless steel gas cylinders —
Practice No. SNT-TC-1A, Personnel Qualification and Certification in Nondestructive Testing, are authorized by DOT to
Periodic inspection and testing, even if they are not trained and certified according to ISO standard 9712, Non-destructive
testing - Qualification and certification of NDT personnel.
Certification of NDT personnel in accordance with ASNT is recognized not only by the USA, but also world-wide,
including countries within the European Union. Training offered by authorized testing facilities often utilizes reference
materials produced by ASNT. For example, Lavender International in the United Kingdom lists ASNT training materials
and references on their web site. ASNT materials are used by training providers in the USA, including Hellier, which has
been widely respected for more than forty years as a leading provider of NDT training and Level Ill services. Reference
the required training courses.
and training materials produced by ASNT are used by agencies in the United States and the European Union to develop
SERVING THE INDUSTRY SINCE 1958

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FIBA Request for Letter of Interpretation Regarding UE Personnel Qualification
ISO 9712 mandates that an independent third party Level III be responsible for the certification, whereas ASNT
is conducted by an independent third party and ASNT testing is conducted by the employer or his designated Level III.
certification is an employer-based certification provided by an employer-designated Level III. Likewise, testing for ISO
To require USA-based companies, who are currently using training and certification practices that have been in place for
40 years, to seek another certification from an overseas third party in order to comply with a European standard such as
ISO 9712 when performing requalification in the USA would be a regrettable step for the DOT to take and an expensive
one for US companies to comply with. It's bordering on being a barrier to free trade. FIBA has investigated the cost of
getting its technicians certified to ISO 9712 and found that it would be approximately $6,500 for a seasoned technician
and as much as $20,000 for a trainee. (Currently, there are no USA-based, approved training centers. Thus, technicians
would travel to Europe for the training. It's anticipated that a "seasoned" inspector would still require 10 days of training
and testing, while a new recruit would require as many as 24 days.) Obviously, this would be an expense to add to what
FIBA has already invested in training and certification of its UE technicians (estimated to be approximately $22,540 per
inspector).
FIBA notes that 49 CFR §172.702(c) states: "Training may be provided by the hazmat employer or other public or
private sources." Additionally, it is noted that not all the ISO documents identified as normative references in ISO 6406
are listed as reference material in 49 CFR §171.7(W). ISO 11114-1 and ISO 11621 are referenced, but ISO 13341, ISO
13769 and, most notably, ISO 9712 are not referenced. It seems that your office specifically did not reference these
documents because CGA standards adequately address the fitting of valves, 49 CFR §§178 and 180 stipulate stamp
marking requirements, and the numerous NDT special permits released by DOT specify NDT training requirements.
Finally, I will take this opportunity to tell you that many members of the CGA Cylinder Specification Committee are
participating on work item 13-043, which is tasked with writing a CGA document to provide members and, potentially,
DOT regulators with guidelines for training, qualification, and certification of personnel performing periodic
requalification. While not yet completed, this document is fundamentally based on the premise that US companies will
have the ability to use in-house training, provided minimum standards for course content, training hours, experience,
record-keeping, etc. are fulfilled.
QUESTIONS:
1. Is it the DOT's intention that personnel performing requalification of UN pressure receptacles in accordance with
referenced in Clause 11.4.3.5 of ISO 6406?
ISO 6406 also be required to comply with the qualification and experience requirements of ISO 9712, which is
2. Is FIBA authorized to perform periodic inspection and testing of seamless steel gas cylinders using ultrasonic
examination applied in accordance with ISO 6406, excepting that the equipment shall be operated by, and its
operation supervised by, personnel qualified and certified in accordance with ASNT SNT-TC-1A?
We look forward to learning of your interpretation. We hope that you'll recognize the NDT qualification and certification
hesitate to contact me.
practices of the USA for the past nearly 40 years. If you have any questions or need any other information, please do not
Sincerely,
chok
Christopher R. Adams
Manager, Regulatory Affairs
TEL: 774-696-3459
FIBA Technologies, Inc.
E-Mail: chrisadams@fibatech.com

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EXHIBIT A
FIBA REQUALIFICATION FACILITIES
Littleton, MA: FIBA Technologies, Inc., 53 Ayer Road, Littleton, MA 01460, U.S.A. This facility holds U.S.
DOT manufacturer registration number M6235 as well as requalifier identification number (RIN) 1441. This
Littleton, MA facility also holds ASME U Certificate Number 48,231 and U.S. DOT Approval CA2008090018
authorizing manufacture of various UN ISO 11120 specification tubes.
Millbury, MA: FIBA Technologies, Inc., 1535 Grafton Road, Millbury, MA 01527, U.S.A. This facility holds
U.S. DOT manufacturer registration number M5635 as well as RIN A748. This Millbury, MA facility also holds
ASME U, U2 and U3 Certificate Numbers 34,410, 45,218 and 36,419 respectively and U.S. DOT and CT
Numbers 1177346 and 3455 respectively.
Louisville, KY: FIBA Technologies, Inc., 1120 Industrial Blvd., Louisville, KY 40219, U.S.A. This facility
holds U.S. DOT RIN B935. This Louisville, KY facility also holds ASME U Certificate Number 24,061 and U.S.
DOT and CT Numbers 1177346 and 589 respectively.
Rayne, LA: FIBA Technologies, Inc., 245 Lexington Drive, Rayne, LA 70578, U.S.A. This facility holds U.S.
DOT RIN C290. This facility holds U.S. DOT and CT Numbers 1177346 and 3583 respectively.
facility holds U.S. DOT RIN D031. This facility holds U.S. DOT and CT Numbers 1177346 and 7272
East Greenville, PA: FIBA Technologies, Inc., 1645 State Street, East Greenville, PA 18041, U.S.A. This
respectively.
Midvale, OH: FIBA Technologies, Inc., 3211 Brightwood Road, Midvale, OH 44653, U.S.A. This facility holds
U.S. DOT RIN I216 and ASME U certificate number 45,886. This facility holds U.S. DOT and CT Numbers
1177346 and 12951 respectively.
Adelanto, CA: FIBA Technologies, Inc., 17909 Adelanto Road, Adelanto, CA 92301, U.S.A. This facility holds
U.S. DOT RIN I521. This facility holds U.S. DOT and CT Numbers: 1177346 and 12877 respectively.

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EXHIBIT B
FIBA SPECIAL PERMITS FOR REQUALIFICATION
DOT-SP 9847: Acoustic Emission Testing - 3A, 3AA, 3AX, 3AAX, 3T Cylinders, non-DOT Cylinders
(made under SP 13230 and 13258) and DOT UN Tubes (made in accordance with ISO 11120) - 5-Year
(10-year for DOT UN tubes transporting Division 2.1 and 2.2 gases).
DOT-SP 10922: Ultrasonic Examination - 3A, 3AA, 3AX, 3AAX, 3T Cylinders and DOT UN Tubes
(made in accordance with ISO 11120) - 5-Year (10-year for DOT UN tubes transporting Division 2.1
and 2.2 gases).
DOT-SP 12607: Ultrasonic Examination - 3AL Cylinders.
DOT-SP 14453: Ultrasonic Examination - 3A, 3AA, 3AX, ЗAAX and 3T Tubes and Cylinders - 10-
Year.
DOT-SP 14661: Acoustic Emission Testing - 3A, 3AA, 3AX, 3AAX and 3T Tubes and Cylinders -
10-Year.
DOT-SP 15867: Acoustic Emission Testing - DOT-107A Tank Car Tanks (Tubes) - 10-Year.
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