# J.J. Keller and Associates, Inc. — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation

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- **citation:** 19-0028
- **title:** J.J. Keller and Associates, Inc. — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation
- **source type:** guidance
- **agency:** Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration
- **status:** guidance
- **official:** true
- **published on:** 2019-08-23
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- **summary:** 19-0028 response to J.J. Keller and Associates, Inc. concerning 173.185.
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U.S. Department
of Transportation
Pipeline and Hazardous
Materials Safety
Administration
1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE
Washington, DC 20590
AUG 2 3 2019
Thomas J. Ziebell
Sr. Editor - Hazardous Materials Trans.
J.J. Keller and Associates, Inc.
P.O. Box 368
Neenah, WI 54957
Reference No. 19-0028
Dear Mr. Ziebell:
This letter is in response to your March 12, 2019, email requesting clarification of the Hazardous
Materials Regulations (HMR; 49 CFR Parts 171-180) applicable to the marking requirements for
lithium cells and batteries. Specifically, you ask whether more than one telephone number may
be provided on the mark required by§ 173.185(c)(3). You describe a scenario where one
telephone number is provided for the domestic transportation portion of a trip and a different
telephone number for the international transportation portion.
The answer is yes. Section 173 .185( c )(3)(i)(C) does not prohibit including multiple telephone
numbers provided each number reaches a person that can provide additional information on the
contents of the package. Furthermore, identifying that one number is for domestic purposes and
the other number is for international purposes is also not prohibited.
I hope this information is helpful. Please contact us if we can be of further assistance.

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Dodd, Alice (PHMSA)
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
INFOCNTR (PHMSA)
Tuesday, March 12, 2019 2:24 PM
Hazmat Interps
FW: Letter of Interpretation Request
Hello Alice and lkeya,
Please see the letter of interpretation request below.
Lynsie Patschke
Transportation Regulatory Specialist
Hazardous Materials Information Center (HMIC)
From: Ziebell, Thomas (Tom) J [mailto:TZiebell@jjkeller.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 12:42 PM
To: INFOCNTR (PHMSA) <INFOCNTR.INFOCNTR@dot.gov>
Cc: Atkinson, Michael L <MAtkinson@jjkeller.com>; Ness, Heather L <HNess@jjkeller.com>
Subject: Interpretation on 173.185(c)(3)(i)(C)
Request for interpretation.
I' m requesting an interpretation on the marking requirements in 173.185(c)(3)(i)(C). The text in 173.185(c)(3)(i)(C) reads
that the ** must be replaced by a telephone number. I interpret this to mean one telephone number. This was
confirmed by Lynsie in the Information Center when we spoke today and she also said there is no written interpretation
on this.
However, we produce this marking for customers and many want two telephone numbers listed. One number for calls
when the package is in the U.S. and the other number for when the package is not in the U.S. Other companies that
produce this marking add additional telephone numbers and text so frequently that the industry believes this is in
compliance with the regulations.
Can two telephone numbers be listed on the marking? If two are allowed, can words such as "For domestic" or "For
international" be added to differentiate between the two?
Thank you very much for your assistance.
Thomae J Ziebell
Sr. Editor - Hazardous Materials Trans.
P.O. Box 368, Neenah, WI 54957-0368
tziebell@jjkeller.com 1920-722-2848 Ext. 2532
J . J. Keller & Associates , Inc. I JJKeller com Cl fffl
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comments drawn today may not apply to laws, regulations, or best practices as they may be in the future. Any
recommendations made by J. J. Keller staff are offered in strictly an advisory capacity and are not to be construed as
legal advice. Recipients seeking legal advice should consult with legal counsel. J. J. Keller & Associates, Inc. P. 0 . Box 368,
Neenah, Wl54957-0368
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