# Thunder Creek Equipment — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation

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- **citation:** 19-0082
- **title:** Thunder Creek Equipment — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation
- **source type:** guidance
- **agency:** Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration
- **status:** guidance
- **official:** true
- **published on:** 2019-09-16
- **effective on:** Not available
- **summary:** 19-0082 response to Thunder Creek Equipment concerning 173.5.
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U.S. Department
of Transportation
Pipeline and Hazardous
Materials Safety
Administration
1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE
Washington, DC 20590
September 16, 2019
Mr. Luke Van Wyk
Vice President of Sales
Thunder Creek Equipment
1833 Highway 163
Pella, Iowa 50219
Reference No. 19-0082
Dear Mr. Van Wyk:
This letter is in response to your June 17, 2019, email requesting clarification of the Hazardous
Materials Regulations (HMR; 49 CFR Parts 171 -180) applicable to a previous letter of
interpretation under Reference No. 19-0022. Specifically, you request clarification on the
definition of local roads.
We have paraphrased and answered your questions as follows:
Ql. You ask whether the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration (PHMSA)
has adopted the U.S. DOT Federal Highway Administration's definition of a "local road"
for the purposes of§ 173.5(a).
Al. The answer is no, PHMSA does not define the term "local road" as it is used in 49 CFR
173.5. Further, PHMSA does not use another agency's "local road" definition.
Q2. You ask whether PHMSA considers a "local road" to be anything other than an interstate
highway.
A2. As stated in answer Al, PHMSA does not define the term "local road." However, HM-
200 [62 FR 1215], the rulemaking that adopted the agricultural exceptions into the HMR,
specifically states that an interstate highway would not be considered a "local road."
Therefore, for the purposes of§ 173.5(a), any road other than an interstate highway may
be considered a local road.
I hope this information is helpful. Please contact us ifwe can be of further assistance.
T. Glenn Foster
Chief, Regulatory Review and Reinvention Branch
Standards and Rulemaking Division

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From:
Sent:
To: Luke Van Wyk <luke@ldj-products.com >
Monday, June 17, 2019 8:29 AM
Dodd, Alice (PHMSA); Stevens, Michael (PHMSA); Kelley, Shane (PHMSA); Foster, Glenn
(PHMSA)
Cc: art fleener; Brian Jarzen
Subject: Attachments: RE: Response Letter of Interpretation
Request For Interpretation PHMSA 6.14.2019.docx
Good Morning,
Please find a request for further interpretation of the term "local roads" used in 49CFR173.5. The Illinois DOT and
Illinois State Police continue to hold to a very narrow interpretation of local roads.
Thank you,
Luke Van Wyk I Vice President - Sales
Thunder Creek Equipment
Direct 641 .620.4025
Cell: 641 -780-1285
Luke@ThunderC reek. com
ThunderCreek.com I LDJ-Products.com
From: Dodd, Alice (PHMSA) <Alice.Dodd@dot.gov>
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 8:43 AM
To: Luke Van Wyk <luke@ldj-products.com>
Subject: Response Letter of Interpretation
Good Morning Mr. Wyk,
My name is Alice Dodd and I work in the Office of Hazardous Materials and Safety Administration (PHMSA) I am emailing
and sending in regular mail your response to the Letter of Interpretation that was sent in. If there is anything else please
feel free to contact us.
Thank you
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any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of
the company. Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. LDJ
Manufacturing Inc. (DBA Thunder Creek Equipment) accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted
by this email. LDJ Manufacturing Inc., 1833 Hwy 163, Pella, Iowa 50219
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THUNDER CREEK EQUIPMENT
ThunderCreek.com
CONTACT
1833 Highway 16:J
Pella, IA 50219
P: 866.535.7667
F: 641.620 .8302
A division of LDJ Manufacturing, Inc.
Michael Stevens
Transportation Specialist
Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration
1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE
Washington, DC 20590
Dear Mr. Stevens :
This letter is a follow up to the letter of interpretation reference No. 19-0022,
dated March 04. 2019.
Thank you for the interpretation. We have a couple of follow up questions
regarding the letter of interpretation No. 19-0022.
1. Has PHMSA adopted the Federal Highway Administrations (FHWA)
definition of what a "local road" is as it relates to HMR 49 CFR Section
173.S(a)? Our belief is that PHMSA has not adopted FHWA's definition
of a local road . It is not adopted by reference in Section 171.7, it is not
defined in Section 171.8 and FHWA's definition is also not specifically
referenced in Section 173.S(a).
2. Does a local road mean any other road, other than an interstate
highway? This would include a local farm to market road, county
highway, state highway and US highways. The preamble of January 08
1997, final rule (62 FR 1207) PHMSA states: "For the purposes of this
section, a local road does not include an interstate highway". Our
believe is that any other road, other than an interstate highway would be
considered a "local road" as it is used in Section 173.S(a).
Thank you for your help and clarification. We look forward to a timely response
to our questions.
Please contact us if further information is needed.
Sincerely,
Luke Van Wyk
Vice President - Sales
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