# Tatonduk Outfitters Limited, dba Everts Air Cargo — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation

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- **citation:** 20-0041
- **title:** Tatonduk Outfitters Limited, dba Everts Air Cargo — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation
- **source type:** guidance
- **agency:** Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration
- **status:** guidance
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- **published on:** 2020-08-06
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- **summary:** 20-0041 response to Tatonduk Outfitters Limited, dba Everts Air Cargo concerning 175.8, 175.9.
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U.S. Department
of Transportation
Pipeline and Hazardous
Materials Safety
Administration
August 6, 2020
Robert Ragar
V.P. Contractual Business & Hazardous Materials
Tatonduk Outfitters Limited, dba Everts Air Cargo
5525 Airport Industrial Road
Fairbanks, AK 99709
Reference No. 20-0041
Dear Mr. Ragar:
This letter is in response to your May 11, 2020, email and subsequent telephone conversations
requesting clarification of the Hazardous Materials Regulations (HMR; 49 CFR Parts 171-180)
applicable to the operation of research and testing equipment installed on an aircraft.
Specifically, you detail the following scenario and ask whether the operations are subject to the
requirements of the HMR:
• ZeroGravity Corporation operates parabolic flights that create micro gravity
environments;
• During some of these flights, ZeroGravity Corporation supports governmental and
private needs for research and testing in a micro gravity environment;
• On these flights, research and testing platforms are installed on the aircraft. Some of
these platforms may contain various amounts of hazardous materials;
• Prior to flight, these research and testing platforms comply with Engineering Orders,
receive approval from the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Designated Engineering
Representative, comply with FAA Engineering Data Approval Form 8110-3, and are
inspected by Required Inspection Item prior to flight; and
• After receiving satisfactory determinations, these research and testing platforms are
deemed worthy for air transportation.
The answer is yes. Unless otherwise excepted, when the research and testing equipment contain
a hazardous material, the operations are subject to the HMR. The HMR does provide certain
exceptions, including those for air transportation in part 175. For example, § 175.8 provides
exceptions for operator equipment that is required aboard an aircraft in accordance with
applicable airworthiness requirements and operating requirements. However, because the
research and testing equipment is not required onboard the aircraft for the operational flight and
airworthiness of the aircraft, it is not eligible for this exception. Additionally, § 175.9 provides
exceptions for certain special aircraft operations when applicable FAA operator requirements
have been met. Again however, based on the scenario provided in your request, it does not
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appear that the operations meet any of these special aircraft operations.
If a person cannot comply with the requirements of the HMR or wishes to perform a function
that is not otherwise permitted under the HMR, a special permit would be required to perform
the functions, in accordance with 49 CFR part 107, subpart B.
Please note that the HMR only applies to the transportation of hazardous materials. Therefore,
the research and testing platforms must also comply with any additional air worthiness
requirements, in accordance with 14 CFR.
I hope this information is helpful. Please contact us if we can be of further assistance.
Sincerely,
Dirk Der Kinderen
Chief, Standards Development Branch
Standards and Rulemaking Division

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Geller
20-0041
From: INFOCNTR (PHMSA)
To: Hazmat Interps
Subject: FW: Request for clarification and interpretation Zero-G
Date: Thursday, May 14, 2020 3:35:21 PM
Attachments: Letter for Interpretation 5-11-2020.doc
20_5_Regar.docx
Hello Alice and Ikeya,
Please see the attached letter of interpretation request.
Please contact our office with any questions.
Thanks,
Kathryn (HMIC)
From: Robert Ragar <RRagar@evertsair.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 3:10 PM
To: INFOCNTR (PHMSA) <INFOCNTR.INFOCNTR@dot.gov>
Cc: Robert Ragar <RRagar@evertsair.com>
Subject: Request for clarification and interpretation Zero-G
Dear PHMSA,
Following a conversation with Sarah, I am attaching a letter requesting guidance and interpretation
on the applicability of certain 49CFR parts with certain aspects of installed systems on an aircraft.
Please contact me if you have any questions or need further clarification, and to let me know your
interpretation.
Sincerely,
Robert Ragar
V.P. Contractual Business & Hazardous Materials
Tatonduk Outfitters Limited, dba Everts Air Cargo
Fairbanks, AK 99709
907-450-2349, FAX 907-450-2320
rragar@evertsair.com

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Mr. Shane Kelley
Director, Standards and Rulemaking Division
U.S. DOT / PHMSA (PHH-10)
1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE East Building, 2nd Floor
Washington, DC 20590
Re: Request for clarification and guidance / interpretation
Dear Mr. Kelley, 11 May 2020
Tatonduk Outfitters Limited dba Everts Air Cargo, operates a specially equipped jet aircraft that
conducts parabolic flights to create micro gravity environments. The clarification needed from
PHMSA is whether or not the current engineering, review, and airworthiness authorization
process appropriately covers this type of program, or whether a Special Permit is additionally
required (above and beyond the airworthiness engineering process)?
Historically, these flights were conducted by NASA for astronaut training, and scientific
research and testing in reduced or zero gravity environments (micro gravity). These flights are
now conducted commercially through an organization called ZeroGravity Corporation, which
developed a program specifically for this need. The commercial program now supports both
governmental and private needs for research and testing in micro gravity environments.
During the testing and research process, many scientific lab equipment structures are
designed and built to support (and achieve), the research/testing goals. These
research/testing platforms requiring the micro gravity environment are designed by the science
labs in collaboration with the airline to ensure that they meet or exceed aviation airworthiness
standards.
All of the research and testing platforms for installed equipment onboard an aircraft must be in
compliance with Engineering Orders, receive approval from the FAA Designated Engineering
Representative (DER), comply with FAA Engineering Data Approval Form 8110-3, and be
inspected by Required Inspection Item (RII) prior to flight. Following all satisfactory
determinations throughout this process, the equipment become part of the airworthiness of the
aircraft.
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Some of the research & testing platforms may contain various amounts of regulated materials
(dangerous goods when transported in commerce). However, these materials are designed
and incorporated into the research/testing platforms as part of those structures, and go through
the complete Engineering Approval process prior to being installed on the aircraft (as part of
the aircraft). Prior to aircraft installation, when these regulated items are transported in
commercial transportation, they are packaged, marked, labeled, declared according to their
basic description at that time (for any mode of transportation when applicable), and in full
compliance with 49 CFR.
All subject matter experts involved with the research / testing phase of a flight undergo
background checks, training, and testing, prior to accompanying a flight. Company
Coaches/Flight Attendants accompany persons during all flights to ensure a high level of
safety and security during the flight. All of the Coaches/Flight Attendants are trained on the
sequence and methods used for the research and testing, and supervise the individuals
involved to ensure that conduct and activities do not deviate from the safety parameters for
those tasks. Pilots are involved with the engineering & planning development, mission
preparation, safety, security and quality control briefings before any flight, so they are
knowledgeable of all aspects of the mission, and what is on their aircraft throughout the whole
process.
Recently, an FAA official familiar with 49 CFR Transportation of Dangerous Goods, questioned
Everts Air Cargo on how the packaging, marking, labeling and other requirements in 49 CFR,
were being complied with (for those items that are listed in the 172.101 table), and installed in
these research / testing platforms. The Company explained that the compliance was through
the engineering and authorization process i.e. the various dangerous goods were designed
into the research & testing platforms. However, it was suggested that perhaps a Special
Permit for the Airline, as well as, the Astronauts and Scientists, may be required.
This program has several manuals that outline the processes and conduct of the operations,
which have all been accepted and approved by FAA subject matter experts. Clarification or
interpretation is needed from PHMSA as to whether or not a Special Permit is additionally
required.
Your response to the above request is appreciated. If you have any questions, please don’t
hesitate to contact me.
Regards,
Robert Ragar
V.P. Contractual Business & Hazardous Materials
Tatonduk Outfitters Limited, dba Everts Air Cargo
5525 Airport Industrial Road
Fairbanks, AK 99709
Phone 907-450-2349, fax 907-450-2249
rragar@evertsair.com
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BYTITTERS
d/b/a Everts Air Alaska, d/b/a/ Everts Air Cargo • P.O. Box 61680, Fairbanks, AK 99706-1680 • (907) 450-2345, fax: (907) 450-2320 • www.evertsair.com
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