# University of Rhode Island — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation

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- **citation:** 22-0025
- **title:** University of Rhode Island — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation
- **source type:** guidance
- **agency:** Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration
- **status:** guidance
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- **published on:** 2023-03-23
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- **summary:** 22-0025 response to University of Rhode Island concerning 172.704.
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U.S. Department
of Transportation
Pipeline and Hazardous
Materials Safety
Administration
1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE
Washington, DC 20590
March 23, 2023
Nic Englehart
University of Rhode Island
Environmental Health & Safety
177 Plains Road
Kingston, RI 02881
Reference No. 22-0025
Dear Mr. Englehart:
This letter is in response to your March 11, 2022, email requesting clarification of the Hazardous
Materials Regulations (HMR; 49 CFR Parts 171-180) applicable to pre-transportation functions.
Specifically, you relate a circumstance in which fieldwork in remote locations necessitates a
trained hazmat employee to prepare hazardous material for shipment, however, you sometimes
have difficulty locating someone qualified to provide such service. You provide a scenario where
you—as a trained hazmat employee—would provide direct supervision via video-call to an
untrained employee (i.e., a colleague) while the untrained employee performs pre-transportation
functions (e.g., selecting hazardous material packagings, markings, labels, and preparing
shipping papers) and ask whether the HMR allows for such virtual supervision of untrained
employees when performing pre-transportation functions.
The answer is no, insofar as it is the understanding of this Office that your colleague will not be
hazmat trained within 90 days. Persons performing functions subject to the HMR must be
trained as specified in § 172.704. The HMR affords new employees and those who change job
functions the opportunity to perform hazmat functions under direct supervision; however, the
employee must be fully trained within 90 days. Specifically, in accordance with § 172.704(c)(1),
a new employee or a hazmat employee who changes job functions may perform the new
functions prior to completing the required training, provided: (1) the employee is under direct
supervision of a properly trained hazmat employee; and (2) the training is completed within 90
days after employment or a change in job function. These requirements apply to all hazmat
employees, regardless of the frequency of performance of the functions. Accordingly, in a
scenario as described in your message, it is the opinion of this Office that the untrained person
may perform the function under direct supervision via video call provided the following are
satisfied: the supervising hazmat employee is able to instruct the employee how to properly
perform the hazmat function, the supervising hazmat employee is able to observe the employee’s
performance of the function, the supervising hazmat employee is able to take immediate

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corrective action regarding any function not performed in conformance with the HMR1, and the
untrained employee completes hazmat training within 90 days of performing the job function.
If you are unable to demonstrate compliance with the training requirements, you may apply for a
special permit by submitting an application to the Associate Administrator for Hazardous
Materials Safety in conformance with the requirements prescribed in 49 CFR Part 107, Subpart
B. You may obtain information on the special permit application process from our website at
https://www.phmsa.dot.gov/approvals-and-permits/hazmat/hazardous-materials-approvals-and-
permits-overview, or by calling PHMSA's Approvals and Permits Division at (202) 366-4511.
I hope this information is helpful. Please contact us if we can be of further assistance.
Sincerely,
Dirk Der Kinderen
Chief, Standards Development Branch
Standards and Rulemaking Division
1 See final rule HM-222B (61 FR 27166, 27169; May 30, 1996).

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Cardez
From: INFOCNTR (PHMSA)
To: Dodd, Alice (PHMSA)
Cc: Hazmat Interps
Subject: FW: Request for Interpretation
Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2022 9:33:12 AM
22-0025
Hello Alice,
Please see the below request for interpretation.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Regards,
-Breanna
From: Nicholas Englehart <nenglehart@uri.edu>
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:57 AM
To: INFOCNTR (PHMSA) <INFOCNTR.INFOCNTR@dot.gov>
Cc: Shipping/Receiving URI/GSO <shipping@etal.uri.edu>
Subject: Request for Interpretation
CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Department of Transportation (DOT). Do not click on links or
open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
Hello
I work at a university where I ship dangerous goods for professors. Oftentimes we are shipping
materials out for fieldwork, sometimes in remote locations. As the sole person trained and certified
to ship dangerous goods at my institution, I've faced a dilemma. Professors are not always able to
locate someone trained and certified to ship dangerous goods for the return shipment of their
fieldwork.
Therefore, I'm requesting an interpretation of whether I can video-call a colleague to provide direct
oversight and supervision while they prepare and package dangerous goods for transport. Such that,
I can provide real time feedback to ensure corrective measures are being taken (i.e., not signing a
dangerous goods declaration until the package is in full compliance based on appearance and
discussion with the colleague). All appropriate shipping materials (e.g., UN-rated packaging, packing
materials, markings, labels) would be available for the colleague on the video-call.
Thank you
--
Nic Englehart, CSP
Chemical Hygiene Officer &
Dangerous Goods Shipping Specialist

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University of Rhode Island
Environmental Health & Safety
office: 401-874-5740
cell: 401-203-1131
email: nenglehart@uri.edu (he/him)
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