# DOT Training Solutions — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation - **operation:** document - **citation:** 23-0009 - **title:** DOT Training Solutions — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation - **source type:** guidance - **agency:** Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration - **status:** guidance - **official:** true - **published on:** 2024-03-21 - **effective on:** Not available - **summary:** 23-0009 response to DOT Training Solutions concerning 180.407. - **machine formats:** - **json:** https://regulus.evalyn.ai/document/phmsa-interpretation-23-0009.json - **markdown:** https://regulus.evalyn.ai/document/phmsa-interpretation-23-0009.md - **app url:** https://regulus.evalyn.ai/document/phmsa-interpretation-23-0009 - **source url:** https://www.phmsa.dot.gov/sites/phmsa.dot.gov/files/2024-03/230009.pdf **body:** <<>> U.S. Department of Transportation Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration 1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE Washington, DC 20590 March 21, 2024 Mr. Rex Railsback Safety Consultant DOT Training Solutions P.O. Box 25311 Overland Park, KS 66225 Reference No. 23-0009 Dear Mr. Railsback: This letter is in response to your January 30, 2023, email requesting clarification of the Hazardous Materials Regulations (HMR; 49 CFR Parts 171-180) applicable to cargo tank void spaces. Specifically, you wish to clarify the question from a previously issued letter of interpretation (Reference No. 22-0028). You state in your email that you “… did not intend to ask if the void space between compartmented cargo tanks built with double bulkheads, between compartments, was considered a ‘compartment’.” Rather, you intended to ask whether the individual tanks of a multi-tank cargo tank motor vehicle (CTMV)—utilizing double bulkheads between tanks which remain at atmospheric pressure during leakage and pressure test—are considered adjacent cargo tanks, as it relates to §§ 180.407(g)(1)(vi) and (h)(1). The answer is yes. As noted in our previous letter of interpretation (Reference No. 22-0028), §§ 180.407(g)(1)(vi) and (h)(1) both state that “each cargo tank of a multi-tank cargo tank motor vehicle must be tested with the adjacent cargo tanks empty and at atmospheric pressure” (emphasis added). In addition, §§ 180.407(g)(1)(vi) and (h)(1) do not contain provisions specifically excepting CTMVs configured with bulkheads. I hope this information is helpful. Please contact us if we can be of further assistance. Sincerely, Steven Andrews Acting Chief, Regulatory Review and Reinvention Branch Standards and Rulemaking Division <<>> Pollack 23-0009 From: INFOCNTR (PHMSA) To: Dodd, Alice (PHMSA) Cc: Hazmat Interps Subject: FW: Ref. Hazmat letter of interpretation 22-0028 Date: Wednesday, February 1, 2023 8:42:04 AM Attachments: 22-0028.pdf Good morning Alice, Please see the below interpretation request for Rex Railsback. He has some additional information that was not included in his original request and he is asking for another one based on this information that was not in his original request. Let me know if you need anything. Regards, -Breanna From: Rex Railsback Sent: Monday, January 30, 2023 10:37 AM To: INFOCNTR (PHMSA) Cc: Matthew Freeman Subject: Ref. Hazmat letter of interpretation 22-0028 CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Department of Transportation (DOT). Do not click on links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Mr. Foster or designee, We apologize for any misunderstanding of our question ref. 180.407 (g)(1)(vi) and 180.407 (h)(1) as it relates to “adjacent compartments” and “void spaces”, to which you responded to in your letter of interpretation 22-0028, on January 24, 2023 . We did not intend to ask if the void space between compartmented cargo tanks built with double bulkheads, between compartments, was considered a “compartment”. Our questions is, are the individual tanks, of a multi-tank cargo tank, utilizing double bulkheads between tanks, which remain at atmospheric pressure, during leakage and pressure test, considered adjacent cargo tanks, as it relates to 180.407(g)(1)(vi) and 180.407(h)(1)? Our understanding is that the “air gap” caused by the double bulkhead, along with the required open drain holes, and the fact that each “air gapped” tank, is gauged separately, during a leakage or pressure test, means that each tank of a multi-tank cargo tank, built with “air gapped” double bulk heads, would not be considered as adjacent tanks, as it relates to 180.407(g)(1)(vi) and 180.407(h) <<>> (1). The double bulkheads, remaining at atmospheric pressure, while each tank of a multi-tank cargo tank is pressurized to the required test pressure, would allow each tank to be tested as single tanks due to being surrounded by atmospheric pressure. We are requesting 22-0028 be revisited with the above information and responded to in writing. If this is not feasible, we are requesting the above question, be responded to with a new written letter of interpretation. The original requester, Randy Decker and I both represent DOT Training Solutions. My contact information is below. Respectfully Rex C. Railsback Safety Consultant Main Office: 866.296.7394 Cell: 913.568.3001 rex@dottrainingsolutions.com P.O. Box 25311, Overland Park, KS, 66225 dottrainingsolutions.com <<>> U.S. Department of Transportation Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration 1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE Washington, DC 20590 January 24, 2023 Mr. Randy Decker Safety Consultant DOT Training Solutions P.O. Box 25311 Overland Park, KS 66225 Reference No. 22-0028 Dear Mr. Decker: This letter is in response to your March 17, 2022, email requesting clarification of the Hazardous Materials Regulations (HMR; 49 CFR Parts 171-180) applicable to the testing and inspection requirements for multi-compartment Department of Transportation (DOT) specification cargo tanks. In your email, you state that §§ 180.407(g)(1)(vi) and 180.407(h)(1) of the HMR require that each cargo tank of a multi-tank cargo tank motor vehicle be pressure-tested and leakage- tested respectively, with the adjacent cargo tanks empty and at atmospheric pressure. Furthermore, you ask whether a void at atmospheric pressure between double bulkheads—as described in your email—may be considered an adjacent compartment for the purposes of pressure and leakage testing under § 180.407. The answer is no. Sections 180.407(g)(1)(vi) and (h)(1) both state that “each cargo tank of a multi-tank cargo tank motor vehicle must be tested with the adjacent cargo tanks empty and at atmospheric pressure.” Under § 178.345-1(c), the HMR define a “void” as “the space between tank heads or bulkheads and a connecting structure.” Therefore, a “void” does not meet the definition of a cargo tank. I hope this information is helpful. Please contact us if we can be of further assistance. Sincerely, T. Glenn Foster Chief, Regulatory Review and Reinvention Branch Standards and Rulemaking Division - **truncated:** false - **body characters:** 6284