# American Industrial Transport, Inc. — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation

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- **citation:** 23-0102
- **title:** American Industrial Transport, Inc. — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation
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- **agency:** Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration
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- **published on:** 2024-03-28
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- **summary:** 23-0102 response to American Industrial Transport, Inc. concerning 179.18.
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U.S. Department
of Transportation
Pipeline and Hazardous
Materials Safety
Administration
1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE
Washington, DC 20590
March 28, 2024
Roger Dalske
Vice President Engineering and Fleet Operations
American Industrial Transport, Inc.
100 Clark Street
St. Charles, MO 63301
Reference No. 23-0102
Dear Mr. Dalske:
This letter is in response to your November 28, 2023, letter requesting clarification of the
Hazardous Materials Regulations (HMR; 49 CFR Parts 171-180) applicable to thermal
protection systems on rail tank cars. You ask whether thermal protection systems included
among the Department’s list of thermal protection systems that comply with the requirements of
Part 179, Appendix B—and no longer require test verification per § 179.18(c) —can be
combined. Specifically, you ask whether a different thermal protection system on the list may be
used to repair a thermal protection system on the list that has already been installed on a tank car
if the list does not specifically identify the two systems in use together. It is your understanding
that it would be permissible to use one listed thermal protection system to repair another listed
thermal protection system provided the tank car still meets the required performance standards
set forth in the HMR, and that further test verification of the combined system would be
unnecessary because separately both systems no longer require test verification.
Based on the information in your letter and the included plans for repair of the thermal protection
system, it is the opinion of this Office that your understanding is incorrect. The thermal
protection systems that comply with Part 179, Appendix B and no longer require test verification
per § 179.18(c), provide readily available options to be used wholly. Combining pieces of two or
more systems from the thermal protection systems list will require test verification in accordance
with the requirements of § 179.18(a)-(b), as the systems on the list were not tested in
combination.
I hope this information helpful. Please contact us if we can be of further assistance.
Sincerely,
Dirk Der Kinderen
Chief, Standards Development Branch
Standards and Rulemaking Division

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Roundtree
Jones, Jessie Jane CTR (PHMSA)
23-0102 CONFIDENTIAL
From:
Dodd, Alice (PHMSA)
Sent:
To:
Wednesday, November 29, 2023 2:00 PM
Jones, Jessie Jane CTR (PHMSA)
Subject:
Attachments:
Fwd: requesting interpretation of acceptable repair of thermal protection systems
Public Version_AITX Interpretation Request - Thermal Protection System (11.28.23).pat;
Confidential Version_AITX Interpretation Request - Thermal Protection System
(11.28.23) pdf
Jessie,
Here you go thanks
Get Outlook for ios
From: Patrick, Eamonn (PHMSA) <eamonn.patrick@dot.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2023 11:14:49 AM
To: Dodd, Alice (PHMSA) <Alice.Dodd@dot.gov>
Cc: DerKinderen, Dirk (PHMSA) <Dirk.DerKinderen@dot.gov>; Foster, Glenn (PHMSA) < Glenn.Foster@dot.gov>; Majors,
Leonard (PHMSA) <leonard.majors@dot.gov>
Subject: FW: requesting interpretation of acceptable repair of thermal protection systems
Alice,
Please see attached for a LOI request. Please check this in and assign to a specialist, and be sure to note that AITX is
requesting confidential treatment. You can also let the assigned specialist know that Leonard and I have a lot of
background on this request and we're happy to meet and discuss.
-Eamonn
From: Dalske, Roger <RDalske@aitx.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2023 3:47 PM
To: INFOCNTR (PHMSA) <INFOCNTR.INFOCNTR@dot.gov>
Cc: Patrick, Eamonn (PHMSA) <eamonn.patrick@dot.gov>; O'Brien, Kenneth < KOBrien@aitx.com>; Dalske, Roger
<RDalske@aitx.com>
Subject: requesting interpretation of acceptable repair of thermal protection systems
AITX is requesting interpretation of acceptable repair of thermal protection systems previously discussed at the October
AAR Tank Car Meetings.
Attached please find a public and confidential version of AITX's request for an interpretation from PHMSA. As indicated
in its letter, AITX requests confidential treatment of the three procedures included as attachments to the confidential
version of the letter pursuant to 49 C.F.R. § 105.30 because these documents constitute confidential business
information relating to AITX's business operations, practices, and procedures, which are the type of business
information exempt from the Freedom of Information Act, as set forth in 5 U.S.C. § 552(b)(4).

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Roger Dalske
/X
Vice President Engineering and Fleet Operations
(636) 940-6185 | AITX.COM
AITX
100 Clark Street | St. Charles, MO | 63301
E-mail: RDalske@aitx.com
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November 28, 2023
VIA ELECTRONIC MAIL ONLY
INFOCNTR (PHMSA) INFOCNTR@dot.gov
Standards and Rulemaking Division
Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration
Attn: PHH 10, U.S. Department of Transportation, East Building
1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE.
Washington, DC 20590 0001
Subject: Request for Interpretation of 49 C.F.R. § 179.18.
To Whom It May Concern:
The federal rules require that certain tank cars be equipped with a thermal protection system that
meets the criteria specified in 49 C.F.R. § 179.18. The Hazardous Materials Regulations do not
rth a thermal protection perfor-
mance standard that each system must meet. Id. § 179.18(a). Compliance with the performance
standard must be verified by analyzing the fire effects on the entire surface of the tank car using
the analysis methodology set forth in § 179.18(b) and Appendix B to Part 179. PHMSA main-
tains a list of thermal protection systems that comply with the requirements in Appendix B of 49
-
sign specifications for the thermal protection system in order to incentivize and allow for innova-
tion. 42 Fed. Reg. 46306, 46309 (Sept. 15, 1977) (Final Rule - Shippers; Specification for Pres-
sure Tank Car Tanks).
AITX intends to repair one system on the Approved Systems List with another system also on
the Approved Systems List. Although the Approved Systems List does not specifically identify
these two systems in use together as a combined system, both systems are identified on the Ap-
proved Systems List and therefore no longer require test verification.
Specifically, AITX owns and maintains tank cars that are equipped with a thermal protection
system that includes insulation and an 11-gauge metal jacket that meets the requirements of
procedure, AITX personnel use a thermal inspection camera to detect voids in the original ther-
mal protection system of a tank car. AITX intends to repair such voids by applying a coating to
the affected area such that the coating will overlap the identified voids to ensure all areas are ad-
equately protected. The coating itself is an approved thermal protection system that is identified
-lag coatings). Accordingly, AITX intends to use the two approved
attached a copy of its infrared inspection procedure and its repair procedures that contemplate
application of a coating (i.e., a second thermal protection system) to address voids in the original

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thermal protection system. AITX claims each of these procedures as confidential proprietary
information pursuant to 49 C.F.R. § 105.30 and requests confidential treatment of these three
pro-cedures.1
While § 179.18 does not expressly address this scenario, AITX understands it is permissible to
use one approved thermal protection system to repair another approved thermal protection sys-
tem provided the tank car still meets the performance standard set forth in § 179.18(a). Moreo-
ver, AITX understands that further test verification of the combined system is unnecessary be-
cause both individual thermal protection systems are identified on the Approved System List
and no longer require test verification.
Based on engineering principles, when making this repair AITX expects the following conditions
will be maintained:
1. The pool fire and torch fire survival times will remain unchanged or potentially be im-
proved by the new combined thermal protection system because each individual thermal
protection system has already been verified to meet the § 179.18(a) thermal protection
system performance standard.
2. The insulating characteristics of the original thermal protection system will be maintained
or potentially exceeded using the combined system. The AAR MSPR Appendix A pres-
sure relief device requirements will continue to be met because there will be no change to
the pressure relief device. In addition, the combined thermal protection system is better
insulated than the original thermal protection system.
3. The puncture resistance of the car will be maintained because the thickness of the head
shields, tank and jacket will remain the same.
In addition, AITX will undertake the following activities:
1. The original thermal protection system will be stabilized and evaluated to ensure it will
continue to meet its intended function and design level of safety and reliability for the in-
spection and test interval assigned to the safety system.
2. The combined thermal protection system will be evaluated to ensure it will meet its
function and design level of safety and reliability for the inspection and test interval
assigned to the combined safety system.
3. The changes to the thermal protection system are recorded on the AAR Certificate of
-2) or through the Tank Car Integrated Data base (TCID), with
reference to an approved COC, in accordance with AAR MSRP M-1002 requirements.
4. The tank car, as repaired with the combined thermal protection system, will continue to
meet the federal DOT package specification requirements and applicable AAR rules.
1 AITX requests confidential treatment of these three procedures pursuant to 49 C.F.R. § 105.30 because these docu-
which are the type of business information exempt from the Freedom of Information Act, as set forth in 5 U.S.C. §
552(b)(4).
American Industrial Transport, Inc.
100 Clark Street
St. Charles, MO 63301

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In summary, AITX is requesting that PHMSA confirm its understanding that AITX is permitted
to use one approved thermal protection system to repair another approved thermal protection sys-
tem that has an 11-gauge jacket. AITX will evaluate tank cars with a combined system to ensure
that the combined system reliably meets its functional requirements for the inspection and test
interval assigned to the safety system.
Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions or require
additional information regarding our request.
Roger Dalske
Vice President Engineering and Fleet Operations
(636) 940-6185 | AITX.COM
100 Clark Street | St. Charles, MO | 63301
E-mail: RDalske@aitx.com
CC: Eamonn Patrick eamonn.patrick@dot.gov
KOBrien@aitx.com
American Industrial Transport, Inc.
100 Clark Street
St. Charles, MO 63301

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November 28, 2023
VIA ELECTRONIC MAIL ONLY
INFOCNTR (PHMSA) INFOCNTR@dot.gov
Standards and Rulemaking Division
Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration
Attn: PHH 10, U.S. Department of Transportation, East Building
1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE.
Washington, DC 20590 0001
Subject: Request for Interpretation of 49 C.F.R. § 179.18.
To Whom It May Concern:
The federal rules require that certain tank cars be equipped with a thermal protection system that
meets the criteria specified in 49 C.F.R. § 179.18. The Hazardous Materials Regulations do not
rth a thermal protection perfor-
mance standard that each system must meet. Id. § 179.18(a). Compliance with the performance
standard must be verified by analyzing the fire effects on the entire surface of the tank car using
the analysis methodology set forth in § 179.18(b) and Appendix B to Part 179. PHMSA main-
tains a list of thermal protection systems that comply with the requirements in Appendix B of 49
-
sign specifications for the thermal protection system in order to incentivize and allow for innova-
tion. 42 Fed. Reg. 46306, 46309 (Sept. 15, 1977) (Final Rule - Shippers; Specification for Pres-
sure Tank Car Tanks).
AITX intends to repair one system on the Approved Systems List with another system also on
the Approved Systems List. Although the Approved Systems List does not specifically identify
these two systems in use together as a combined system, both systems are identified on the Ap-
proved Systems List and therefore no longer require test verification.
Specifically, AITX owns and maintains tank cars that are equipped with a thermal protection
system that includes insulation and an 11-gauge metal jacket that meets the requirements of
procedure, AITX personnel use a thermal inspection camera to detect voids in the original ther-
mal protection system of a tank car. AITX intends to repair such voids by applying a coating to
the affected area such that the coating will overlap the identified voids to ensure all areas are ad-
equately protected. The coating itself is an approved thermal protection system that is identified
-lag coatings). Accordingly, AITX intends to use the two approved
attached a copy of its infrared inspection procedure and its repair procedures that contemplate
application of a coating (i.e., a second thermal protection system) to address voids in the original

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thermal protection system. AITX claims each of these procedures as confidential proprietary
information pursuant to 49 C.F.R. § 105.30 and requests confidential treatment of these three
pro-cedures.1
While § 179.18 does not expressly address this scenario, AITX understands it is permissible to
use one approved thermal protection system to repair another approved thermal protection sys-
tem provided the tank car still meets the performance standard set forth in § 179.18(a). Moreo-
ver, AITX understands that further test verification of the combined system is unnecessary be-
cause both individual thermal protection systems are identified on the Approved System List
and no longer require test verification.
Based on engineering principles, when making this repair AITX expects the following conditions
will be maintained:
1. The pool fire and torch fire survival times will remain unchanged or potentially be im-
proved by the new combined thermal protection system because each individual thermal
protection system has already been verified to meet the § 179.18(a) thermal protection
system performance standard.
2. The insulating characteristics of the original thermal protection system will be maintained
or potentially exceeded using the combined system. The AAR MSPR Appendix A pres-
sure relief device requirements will continue to be met because there will be no change to
the pressure relief device. In addition, the combined thermal protection system is better
insulated than the original thermal protection system.
3. The puncture resistance of the car will be maintained because the thickness of the head
shields, tank and jacket will remain the same.
In addition, AITX will undertake the following activities:
1. The original thermal protection system will be stabilized and evaluated to ensure it will
continue to meet its intended function and design level of safety and reliability for the in-
spection and test interval assigned to the safety system.
2. The combined thermal protection system will be evaluated to ensure it will meet its
function and design level of safety and reliability for the inspection and test interval
assigned to the combined safety system.
3. The changes to the thermal protection system are recorded on the AAR Certificate of
-2) or through the Tank Car Integrated Data base (TCID), with
reference to an approved COC, in accordance with AAR MSRP M-1002 requirements.
4. The tank car, as repaired with the combined thermal protection system, will continue to
meet the federal DOT package specification requirements and applicable AAR rules.
1 AITX requests confidential treatment of these three procedures pursuant to 49 C.F.R. § 105.30 because these docu-
which are the type of business information exempt from the Freedom of Information Act, as set forth in 5 U.S.C. §
552(b)(4).
American Industrial Transport, Inc.
100 Clark Street
St. Charles, MO 63301

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In summary, AITX is requesting that PHMSA confirm its understanding that AITX is permitted
to use one approved thermal protection system to repair another approved thermal protection sys-
tem that has an 11-gauge jacket. AITX will evaluate tank cars with a combined system to ensure
that the combined system reliably meets its functional requirements for the inspection and test
interval assigned to the safety system.
Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions or require
additional information regarding our request.
Roger Dalske
Vice President Engineering and Fleet Operations
(636) 940-6185 | AITX.COM
100 Clark Street | St. Charles, MO | 63301
E-mail: RDalske@aitx.com
CC: Eamonn Patrick eamonn.patrick@dot.gov
KOBrien@aitx.com
American Industrial Transport, Inc.
100 Clark Street
St. Charles, MO 63301
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