# Mr. Kent F. Blair — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation

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- **citation:** 98-0163
- **title:** Mr. Kent F. Blair — Hazardous Materials Safety Interpretation
- **source type:** guidance
- **agency:** Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration
- **status:** guidance
- **official:** true
- **published on:** 1998-07-12
- **effective on:** Not available
- **summary:** 98-0163 concerning 177.835.
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& U.S.Department
of Transportation
400 Seventh Street, S.W.
Research and
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Washington, D.C.
20590
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Special Programs
Administration
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AUG | 2 1998
Mr. Kent F. Blair
24489 Mullin Road
Ref. No. 98-0163
Dexter, NY 13634-3003
Dear Mr. Blair:
This is in response to your letter dated June 26, 1998, requesting clarification on the stowage of
explosives and poisons in the same transport vehicle. Specifically, you ask if 49 CFR 177.835(c)
prohibits the transportation of Division 1.1 or 1.2 explosives with any Division 2.3 or Division
6.1 material within the same transport vehicle.
It is the opinion of this Office that 49 CFR 177.835(c) prohibits the stowage of Division 1.1 and
Division 1.2 explosive material in the same transport vehicle with Division 2.3 or 6.1 materials.
We will propose to clarify this section in a future rulemaking.
I hope this satisfies your request.
Sincerely,
:
Delmer F. Billings
Chief, Standards Development
Office of Hazardous Materials Standards
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U.S. Department
400 Seventh Street, S.W.
of Transportation
Washington, D.C.
20590
Special Programs
Research and
Administration
APR 1 7 1998
Mr. Kent Blair
24489 Mullin Road
Dexter, NY 13634
Dear Mr. Blair:
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This is in response to your letter dated February 2, 1998, requesting clarification on the
transportation of explosives on vehicles in combination. Specifically you ask whether
Division 1.1 or 1.2 explosives may be carried on any vehicle or combination of vehicles with
any Division 2.3 (poison gas) or 6.1 (poisonous) materials under the Hazardous Materials
Regulations (HMR; 49 CFR parts 171-180).
The answer is no. Section 177.835(c) states that Division 1.1 or 1.2 materials may not be
loaded into or carried on any vehicle or a combination of vehicles if the other vehicle in the
combination contains "Division 2.3 (poisonous gas) or Division 6.1 (poisonous ) materials."
The phrase "Division 2.3 (poisonous gas) or Division 6.1 (poisonous ) materials" includes all
Division 2.3 materials, regardless of hazard zone, and all Division 6.1 material, regardless of
the physical state or packing group of the material.
I hope this satisfies your request.
Sincerely,
Delmer F. Billings
Chief, Standards Development
Office of Hazardous Materials Standards
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Kent F. Blair
Gale
* 24489 Mullin Road
Dexter, NY 13634-3003
File 177.835
follow-up
June 26, 1998
US Department of Transportation
Research and Special Programs Administration
400 Seventh Street S.W.
Attn.: Delmer F. Billings
Washington, DC 20590
Dear Mr. Billings
response dated April 17,1998.
Request further clarification applicable to my letter dated February 4, 1998 and your subsequent
explosives with any Division 2.3 (poison gas) or Division 6.1 (poisonous) material within the same
For the purpose of clarification, does 49 CFR 177.835©, prohibit the loading of Division 1.1 or 1.2
transport vehicle? (E.g. same trailer, same truck).
I understand from your response that 49 CFR 177.835, does in fact prohibit the loading of Division
1.1 or Division 1.2 explosives with any Division 2.3 (poison gas) or Division 6.1 (poisonous) material, in
the same transport vehicle (e.g. same trailer, same truck), as well in a combination of vehicles.
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I make this request for clarification as co-workers have stated that 49 CFR 177.835©, applies only to
carried on any vehicle or a combination of vehicle if the other vehicle in the combination contains any
vehicles in combination reasoning that, "Division 1.1 or 1.2 materials may not be loaded into or
Division 2.3 (Poisson gas) or Division 6.1 (poisonous) materials.
Co-workers position is that the regulation refers to " the other vehicle" and is therefore not applicable
to loading Division 1.1 or 1.2 explosives with Division 2.3 (poison gas) or Division 6.1 (poisonous)
materials on the same transport vehicle.
It would seem reasonable to assume that, if you cannot load these items in combination, you cannot
load them together. However, I await your clarification.
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Kent F. Blair
24489 Mullin Road
Dexter, NY 13634
February 4, 1998
Edward Mazzullo
Director
Office of Hazardous Materials
400 7th Street Southwest
Stds.
Washington, D.C.
20590
RE: Request for clarification 49 CER
177.835 (c) (4) (iii)
Dear Mr. Mazzullo:
The undersigned's interpretation of the regulatory
guidance contained 49 CER 177.835 (C) (4) (iii), conflicts
with the regulatory guidance contained within 49 CFR
177.848, Segregation Table For Hazardous Materials,
specifically:
The undersigned interprets the regulatory guidance
contained within 49 CFR 177.835 (c) (4) (iii) as prohibiting
Division 1.1 or 1.2 (explosive) materials from being loaded
into or carried on any vehicle of a combination of vehicles
if the other
Division 2.3
: vehicle in the combination contains any
material.
(poisonous gas) or Division 6.1 (poisonous)
The term "any" is interpreted to be all inclusive,
meaning any Division 2.3 (poisonous gas), any Division 6.1
(poisonous) material, irrespective of hazard zone, physical
state (e.g. liquid) and/or packaging group assigned.
Within 49 CFR 177.848, Segregation Table For Hazardous
Materials, the listings applicable to Division 2.3
(poisonous gas) and Division 6.1 (poisonous) material is not
all inclusive. Only Poisonous gas Zone A, Poisonous gas Zone
B, and Poisonous Liquids PG I, Zone A, are considered for
the purpose of segregation during loading, storage or
transport.

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Edward Mazzullo
Director
Office of Hazardous Materials
400 7th Street Southwest
Stds.
Washington, D.C. 20590
177.835
RE: Request for clarification
49 CFR
(c) (4) (iii)
Page 2 of 2
Due to the perceived conflict, respectfully request
clarification applicable to the following.
1. With respect to 49 CFR 177.835 (c) (4) (iii), is the
intent to prohibit any Division 2.3 (poisonous gas) or
Division 6.1 (poisonous) material, irrespective of hazard
zone, physical state (e.g. liquid) and/or packaging group
assigned,
from being loaded into or carried on any vehicle
combination of vehicles if the other vehicle in the
material ?
combination contains any Division 1.1, 1.2 (explosive)
2. If not, what specific Division 2.3 (poisonous gas)
or 6.1 (poisonous) material, (respective of hazard zone,
physical state (e.g. liquid) and/or packaging group
assigned) is prohibited from being loaded into or carried on
any vehicle of a combination of vehicles if the other
(explosive) material ?
vehicle in the combination contains any Division 1.1, 1.2
Sincerely,
Kent F. Blair
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