# Office of Florida State Fire Marshal — Pipeline Safety Interpretation - **operation:** document - **citation:** PI-75-004 - **title:** Office of Florida State Fire Marshal — Pipeline Safety Interpretation - **source type:** guidance - **agency:** Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration - **status:** guidance - **official:** true - **published on:** 1975-01-24 - **effective on:** Not available - **summary:** PI-75-004 response to Office of Florida State Fire Marshal concerning 192.503. - **machine formats:** - **json:** https://regulus.evalyn.ai/document/phmsa-interpretation-pi-75-004.json - **markdown:** https://regulus.evalyn.ai/document/phmsa-interpretation-pi-75-004.md - **app url:** https://regulus.evalyn.ai/document/phmsa-interpretation-pi-75-004 - **source url:** https://www.phmsa.dot.gov/sites/phmsa.dot.gov/files/legacy/interpretations/Interpretation%20Files/Pipeline/1975/PI75004.pdf **body:** <<>> January 24, 1975 Mr. Olin L. Greene, Director Division of State Fire Marshal Office of Florida State Fire Marshal Larson Building Tallahassee, FL 32304 Dear Mr. Greene: This acknowledges your letter of January 20, 1975, providing information on the use of liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) as a test medium. The January 20 letter and your letter of November 15, 1974, requesting that we interpret 49 CFR 192.503(b) to permit the use of LPG as a test medium, are accepted as a petition to change that rule. This matter is assigned Docket No. Pet. 75-1. Please refer to this number in future communications on the subject. We will review the petition to determine whether it warrants beginning a rule-making action. At the conclusion of our review, we will notify you whether the petition for rule making is granted or denied. Sincerely, Joseph C. Caldwell Director Office of Pipeline Safety dal\192\503\75-01-24 1 <<>> January 20, 1975 Mr. Joseph C. Caldwell, Director Office of Pipeline Safety Department of Transportation Washington, D.C. 20590 Dear Mr. Caldwell: In your letter of December 16, 1974, you offered your help in supporting our contention that petroleum gas used as a test medium would pose no greater hazard to the public than natural gas. In reference thereto the following is offered for consideration in allowing liquefied petroleum gas to be used as a test medium for pipelines: Section 192.503 (b) allows: 1. Liquid: The use of liquid would be contrary to safe practices because the drying of piping after testing is impractible [sic] and at best would leave some liquid residue. 2. Natural Gas: Natural gas would not be available where LP gas piping is installed and even if it were, natural gas contains some of the same properties found in liquefied petroleum gas. 3. Inert Gas: Inert gas would require purging the system to the atmosphere or burning; either would present certain hazards that would be negated if LP gas was used. Also, inert gas would not be odorized, whereas LP gas would be. Following are some reasons why LP gas would offer the best test medium for public safety: 1. 2. The density of LP gas is greater than other gases and would tend to show a leak as opposed to gases of lesser density. LP gas has a more narrow range of flammability than natural gas. LP gas, 2.4% - 9.5% gas to air. Natural gas, 5.3% - 14.0% gas to air. Therefore, offering less probability of remaining in the explosive range. dal\192\503\75-01-24 2 <<>> Page 2 3. The technical gas safety information available to this writer suggests that any pipeline should be tested with the product to be used as the most practical way to assure leak detection. 4. LP gas pressures are relatively low in relation to natural gas transmission systems; therefore, LP gas tests would minimize the possibility of over-pressure as to system design. Your assistance in this matter is sincerely appreciated and if you have any questions or if we can be helpful to you in any manner, please let us know. Sincerely, THOMAS D. O'MALLEY STATE TREASURER STATE FIRE MARSHAL Olin L. Greene, Director Division of State Fire Marshal dal\192\503\75-01-24 3 <<>> December 16, 1974 Mr. Olin L. Greene, Director Division of State Fire Marshal Office of Treasurer Insurance Commissioner Tallahassee, FL 32304 Dear Mr. Greene: This responds to your letter of November 15, 1974, requesting that we interpret 49 CFR 192.503(b) to permit the use of petroleum gas as a test medium. Section 192.503(b) prohibits the use of petroleum gas as a test medium by exclusion from the list of permissible media. Consequently, this section cannot be interpreted to permit the use of petroleum gas. We would be happy, however, to treat your letter as a petition to change the rule, if you will provide us further information to support your contention that petroleum gas as a test medium poses no greater hazard to the public than natural gas. Sincerely, Joseph C. Caldwell Director Office of Pipeline Safety dal\192\503\75-01-24 4 <<>> November 15, 1974 Joseph C. Caldwell, Director Office of Pipeline Safety Department of Transportation Washington, D.C. 20590 Request for an Interpretation on Title 49-192.503(b) _ Dear Mr. Caldwell: The test medium must be a liquid, air, natural gas, or inert gas that is: 1. 2. 3. Compatible with the materials of which the pipeline is constructed. Relative free of sedimentary materials Except for natural gas, nonflammable. We feel that when the standards were written, the use of LP Gas as a test medium was possibly overlooked. In Florida, the State Fire Marshal's Office has permitted the use of LP Gas as a test medium and has had no accidents as a result of its use. The LP Gas systems are small in comparison to natural gas transmissions and distribution systems and pipe size rarely exceeds two inches in diameter, therefore limiting the quantity of gas needed for a test. The LP Gas companies, as a rule, do their own piping and normally do not have access to an air compressor for pressuring the pipe. We feel that the use of LP Gas as a test medium would constitute no more of a public safety hazard than the use of natural gas. We request that an interpretation be rendered permitting its use. If we can be of assistance in any manner please let us hear from you. Sincerely, THOMAS D. O'MALLEY STATE TREASURER STATE FIRE MARSHAL dal\192\503\75-01-24 5 <<>> Olin L. Greene, Director Division of State Fire Marshal dal\192\503\75-01-24 6 - **truncated:** false - **body characters:** 5511